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alroachy · April 28th, 2004, 20:14

I need help.
I am not new to 40k, but I am very new to the Imperial Guard.
I just started painting my army last week.
My question is:

I understand that each heavy weapon team needs two men, but how do I treat the new models in a game?

Can the heavy weapon still be used if one of the two guardsman is killed?

Because the model has two men manning the weapon, do I treat each base as a model with two wounds?

Thanks in advance,
Alan

-WhiteDog- · April 28th, 2004, 20:32

Yes, the gun can be fired if one of the crewmen are killed.

isitused · April 28th, 2004, 22:05

When the base takes a wound count the crewman as dead, some people place a D6 to remind them the crewman is dead.
I Pinned the feet of the crewman to the base and did not glue him in place, that way I can just pull the model off.

I use the medium sized bases wherever possible as well. The mortar, and missile launcher fit well on them, that way you can have a separate model for the crew.
-GM

Aun'O Dessi'Us · April 29th, 2004, 00:13

were is the rules on that? i can't find them. if i could then i would have won a lot more IG games in the past. :huh:

Pandora · April 29th, 2004, 00:20

There are no formal rules that say: If a base is two models, treat it as two differant models for wound purposes, it's just something you do. As the rules state it, it's two differant guys, they're just both on the same base.

Aun'O Dessi'Us · April 29th, 2004, 02:58

but does that still mean they can still fire their lascannon if one of them is dead, or do the now use there lasguns?

alroachy · April 29th, 2004, 08:36

Ok,
Let me try and understand something...

1. These large bases are considered two models.

2. You may consider them almost like one large model with two wounds.

3. They may still fire the heavy weapon if one of the men is killed. (Or the model has taken a wound.)

4. The second man may also fire his LasGun during the shooting phase. (A support team of 3 Missle Launchers would actually get 3 ML shots and 3 Lasgun shots.)

Are all these statements true?

Colonel_Kraken · April 29th, 2004, 10:56

Yes the statements are true, the loader can fire his lasgun, he can even rapid fire it if he can.

Tubal · April 29th, 2004, 14:17

they are two models, they just happen to be on the same base.

Inquisitor_Tocamada · April 29th, 2004, 15:15

One thing I've always wondered, can the heavy platform move after the loader has been shot up?

April 28th, 2004, 20:14	#1 (permalink)
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isitused Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Santa Clarita, CA Age: 28 Posts: 1,092 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 77	When the base takes a wound count the crewman as dead, some people place a D6 to remind them the crewman is dead. I Pinned the feet of the crewman to the base and did not glue him in place, that way I can just pull the model off. I use the medium sized bases wherever possible as well. The mortar, and missile launcher fit well on them, that way you can have a separate model for the crew. -GM __________________ I put the Laughter back into Slaughter. Sons of Prometheus <click> Children of Murder <clic>

April 29th, 2004, 00:13	#4 (permalink)
Aun'O Dessi'Us Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 265 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 69	were is the rules on that? i can't find them. if i could then i would have won a lot more IG games in the past. :huh: __________________ If you charge a bunker and die, its called being reckless, but if you charge the bunker and win, it's heroic!

April 29th, 2004, 00:20	#5 (permalink)
Pandora Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: California Posts: 560 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 72	There are no formal rules that say: If a base is two models, treat it as two differant models for wound purposes, it's just something you do. As the rules state it, it's two differant guys, they're just both on the same base. __________________ <a href='http://www.onpoint-marketing.com/stealth-marketing.htm' target='_blank'>The future of marketing is here! Stealth Marketing!</a> Wait, you mean that optimism isn't fashionable anymore?! Lord of Smart-ass Youthimizzles. Soup's up, bitches!

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Aun'O Dessi'Us Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 265 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 69	but does that still mean they can still fire their lascannon if one of them is dead, or do the now use there lasguns? __________________ If you charge a bunker and die, its called being reckless, but if you charge the bunker and win, it's heroic!

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-WhiteDog- Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 70	Yes, the gun can be fired if one of the crewmen are killed.

April 29th, 2004, 08:36	#7 (permalink)
alroachy Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 74	Ok, Let me try and understand something... 1. These large bases are considered two models. 2. You may consider them almost like one large model with two wounds. 3. They may still fire the heavy weapon if one of the men is killed. (Or the model has taken a wound.) 4. The second man may also fire his LasGun during the shooting phase. (A support team of 3 Missle Launchers would actually get 3 ML shots and 3 Lasgun shots.) Are all these statements true? __________________ <a href='http://www.pbase.com/alroachy/root' target='_blank'>My Armies</a>

April 29th, 2004, 10:56	#8 (permalink)
Colonel_Kraken Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: City among the seven mountains, Norway Age: 23 Posts: 827 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 72	Yes the statements are true, the loader can fire his lasgun, he can even rapid fire it if he can. __________________ I kill two dwarves in the morning, I kill two dwarves at night. I kill two dwarves in the afternoon, and then I feel allright. I kill two dwarves in time of peace, and two in time of war. I kill two dwarves before I kill two dwarves, and then I kill two more. Goblin kroozade of revengyness: win:19 draw:10 loss:9

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Tubal LO Zealot Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 29 Posts: 1,151 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 78	they are two models, they just happen to be on the same base. __________________ 98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. The other 2% are smart enough to question the 'science' behind that number... And it's spelled EMPEROR!

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