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MadLarkin · September 16th, 2008, 17:25

I actually like the hard boyz kill point system.

1 kill point per troops choice
2 per fast/elite/heavy choice
3 per HQ choice

and giving free points to the opponent if you don't include one of everything. This actually makes all armies about the same KP's and still doesn't over abuse the platoon system that much (which was a fear I had that guard would be unstoppable in kill points with this ruling) It essentially means the enemy goes after tanks and such as they're easier KP then the infantry.

Although this being said I can see how guard can still abuse it if they took heavy weapon platoons and Independent commissars (hiding 1 out of the 3 commissars in the back and still fielding a elite choice).

While this system isn't perfect I think its a step forward towards guard being equal in KP.

Maybe if they made officers in the platoon worth killpoints but not the squads or something.

Lord Lucias · September 17th, 2008, 02:14

KILL POINTS

So this seems to be a big point of alot people here... sure its damn hard to win when you've got 20+ squads on the table and the enemy has around 10+

BUT

This is only affecting 1/3 of the games we play... the other 2/3 games we have the advantage of having up to 36 scoring units... where the most others can get is 12...

Anyway... this thread is about RUMORS ON THE NEW GUARD CODEX.. not what we want to see in it.

Vengeance2410 · September 17th, 2008, 09:07

Aye thats a fair point,
All i have heard os what i have stated...

could you summerise???

Vengeance

Marrius · October 7th, 2008, 12:54

with doctrines being taken out Im worried about my ability to have carapace armour on my guardsmen

Liffrea · October 7th, 2008, 19:46

I would imagine squads will still have a raft of wargear options you can choose from.

Sgt_Jakeman · October 8th, 2008, 00:02

Too all concerned,

I will at some point in the next few days post up a summary list of the RUMORED changes and another list on what we would like to see in the new codex.

Keep up with the good work and ideas!!

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MadLarkin Acting XO of Tanith 1st Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: College Station Age: 20 Posts: 992 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 52	<a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outgoing/http_d1_openx_org_ck_php_n_a83f474f_amp_cb_46587945173');" rel='nofollow' href='http://d1.openx.org/ck.php?n=a83f474f&cb=46587945173' target='_blank'><img src='http://d1.openx.org/avw.php?zoneid=22572&cb=46587945173&n=a83f474f' border='0' alt='' /></a> I actually like the hard boyz kill point system. 1 kill point per troops choice 2 per fast/elite/heavy choice 3 per HQ choice and giving free points to the opponent if you don't include one of everything. This actually makes all armies about the same KP's and still doesn't over abuse the platoon system that much (which was a fear I had that guard would be unstoppable in kill points with this ruling) It essentially means the enemy goes after tanks and such as they're easier KP then the infantry. Although this being said I can see how guard can still abuse it if they took heavy weapon platoons and Independent commissars (hiding 1 out of the 3 commissars in the back and still fielding a elite choice). While this system isn't perfect I think its a step forward towards guard being equal in KP. Maybe if they made officers in the platoon worth killpoints but not the squads or something. __________________ Most Notable Achievements: Killed a Revenant Titan in one shot. Killed 900 pts worth of Blood Angels in 2 turns while only loosing 4 pts.

September 17th, 2008, 02:14	#52 (permalink)
Lord Lucias Luke Harvey Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Zealand Age: 27 Posts: 994 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 46	KILL POINTS So this seems to be a big point of alot people here... sure its damn hard to win when you've got 20+ squads on the table and the enemy has around 10+ BUT This is only affecting 1/3 of the games we play... the other 2/3 games we have the advantage of having up to 36 scoring units... where the most others can get is 12... Anyway... this thread is about RUMORS ON THE NEW GUARD CODEX.. not what we want to see in it. __________________ Get out while you can, next thing you know you'll have 4x 2k 40k & 1x 5k fantasy armies

October 8th, 2008, 00:02	#56 (permalink)
Sgt_Jakeman Ahhh, The Humble Sentinel Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Brisbane, Australia Age: 17 Posts: 117 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 22	Too all concerned, I will at some point in the next few days post up a summary list of the RUMORED changes and another list on what we would like to see in the new codex. Keep up with the good work and ideas!! __________________ Sentinel: 50pts Enemy Tank: 120pts+ Watching your flanking sentinel getting lucky and destroying over twice its points cost: Priceless

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September 17th, 2008, 09:07	#53 (permalink)
Vengeance2410 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 20 Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 16	Aye thats a fair point, All i have heard os what i have stated... could you summerise??? Vengeance

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Marrius The Lazy Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Indiana State University (NOT IU) Age: 19 Posts: 1,739 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 65	with doctrines being taken out Im worried about my ability to have carapace armour on my guardsmen

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Liffrea Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Derby/DeorbyScire/Mierce/England Age: 28 Posts: 610 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 30	I would imagine squads will still have a raft of wargear options you can choose from.