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Old May 19th, 2006, 16:37   #1 (permalink)
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Default Elysian drop troops.. where at?

Sorry, i'm away from my house, and have very limited internet access.

I was just interested in playing a drop army. But then i remembered about the Elysian drop troops. Is there a specific army list for them? If so where? Or do I have to just create a list for them via IG doctorines? thanks.

Also would like to know any tips or stuff to inform me of drop armies..


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Old May 19th, 2006, 18:30   #2 (permalink)
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hi,

there is a list for them, check www.forgeworld.com and search for imperial guard modells.
they have a whole range of resign-modells, which are fantastic, although quite expensive.
the army list is in one of the "Imperial Armour" books, though i dunno which volume.
should be written somewhere beside the elysian models.

again .... expect to pay a lot of money if you buy the resign models. but you could for example purchase the grav-chutes and usem on the regular cadian models. And/or buy weapon upgrade kits etc.

or mix this equippment with the new ones from the forgeworld cadian line etc.
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I've actually had the same question Microcosm. I too want to start a Elysian drop troop army. For now I'm just using doctrines to create a Light Infantry/ Drop Troop force. But I believe the Elysians (including army lists and doctrines) can be found in Imperial Armor 3: Taros Campaign. I would buy it if I had that cash lying around....oh well maybe later this summer
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yeah you have to use Imperial Armour three but just to let you know they're not exactly codex legal in terms of the vehicle options that they allow.

The models and doctrines will probally all be legal but sents with multi-meltas are not.
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As stated before, the Elysian list is published in Imperial Armour 3: The Taros Campaign. Also as stated Forgeworld produces a range of Elysian models that are very beautiful, but equally expensive. Its not required that you use Elysian models to represent an Elysian list, by no means does your force even have to be Elysian to use the list (instead its a regiment from some other world that uses similar tactics, etc.).

The Elysian list is interesting, but its not the greatest thing since sliced bread. As mentioned it has sentinels with multi-meltas (or heavy bolters) which is cool, as well as the option to give infantry squads demo-charges. Plus there's fliers integrated into the basic list. All cool stuff. However there's no way you could mistake an Elysian force for a typical Guard one. No tanks (obviously). No heavy weapons outside support squads (which lost versatility as well, Fire Support squads are always heavy bolters, anti-tank squads are missile launchers, no options) because infantry squads can't take them anymore. Only demo charges. The command squads are solely for leadership, they don't have the capability for firepower that normal command squads do (no demo charges, and only one special weapon instead of four). They picked good doctrines for the Elysians but they only have five, so its nothing you can't make with a standard doctrines force. Honestly if wherever you play allows the use of other Imperial Armour books, you can duplicate most of the Elysian list just adding flier options and things of the such. I also believe Drop Sentinels are allowed for non-Elysian lists in IA:3. The only thing you really miss out on from an Elysian list is the demo charges in every squad, which isn't really as big as I'd have expected from the list.

Just figured I'd give you guys the run down on the Elysians, since I've had a chance to read through their list in IA3.
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Thanks a bunch for the info Sokh. Makes me debate whether I really should drop the cash for the book or continue making my own list (and use Elysian models....again if I had some more money)
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The models are really cool looking and If i had the spare 300 dollars to drop on maybe 1500 points, I'd be all over them
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There is one thing the elysian list will offer that you can't have in any other way and that is mobility and airsupport.
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Actually mobility and air support are already to be had in either the Imperial Guard codex (for the former) or other volumes of Imperial Armour (for the latter). The only thing Elysians really have to offer you are cheap and abundant demo charges.

Roland: You're welcome. To be honest, I don't find pretty much any of the IA books to be worth their exhorbitant cost. Hence why I've neglected to both buying any of them thus far. :p
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