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I am new to the idea of table top gaming but I am looking to get into mostly Warhammer Fantasy Battles, and I have no idea where to start lol. I was thinking about picking up the battle of skull pass with friend if hes unable to get his set back from his friend. I am from the southern california area, so if anyone wants to take me under their wing, that would be great lol. I have a few questions though.
1) What is the best thing for me to pickup and read to get a decent grasp on the game?
2) Can armies be customized easily or there is there very strict guidelines?
3) expanding from previous question, i read that the battle of skull armies can be combined into 1 large army, chaos dwarf, is it easy to follow what can and cant be mixed to create a unique army?
4) Would I be able to get a fair amount of enjoyment of a starter army? or does the real fun come with the added costs?
5) I am sure that reading whatever is suggested will quickly answer, but I always see ****pts army, i was wondering what this means.
hey mate. Welcome to LO. About your questions;
1. The rulebook, either the big 30 pound one (50 ish $'s?) or theres a smaller version in battle for skull pass.
2. you have units like lords, heroes, core, special and rare. You have to have so many core but have up to so many Lords/heroes/specials and rare. The numbers depend on how may points you're playing.
3. There are things called Army books, the two that you can buy along with skull pass are orcs and goblins and dwarves. Chaos dwarves aren't a written codex so not accepted in quite a lot of places. I wouldn't reccomned it.
4. A started army is fun and it gets funner as the points get higher. It'll still be fun with a small army though.
5. each model is worth ***points, upgrades that can be given cost *** points and both players play to the same amount of points to make the game fair. How many points you play changes how many of some units you have to take and the maximum number of others.
Hope I helped mate.
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1) rulebook. that's a must. maybe if you can, loan an army from someone and play some initiation games.
2)most armies can be customized. The degree of availability depends on the point size of the game.
3)BfSP has core troops mostly, and those are easily added in an army. there is no limit on the amount of core troops in this system. it contains 2 different armies tho. It is commonly done that 2 players buy a box and half of each is transferred to the other. There are more then those races tho. Go through the army books and ask around about play style to find your army.
4) depends on the person imo. Bigger armies depend on you to think in a bigger picture then solo units.
5)games are agreed on in terms of points. each model costs a certain amount. Depending on how many someone has or how long he intends the game to last, a certain amount of points is chosen. tournaments usually focus on a certain amount that allows for some flexibility and game time.
that helped quite a bit, thank you so much.
called a local hobby store, skull pass is only $50 so I am thinking bout heading down there later today or this weekend. Waiting for several auctions to end doesnt seem worth it when in the end, it would probably cost the same or more.
IMHO it helps if you got a friend and read the rulebook first so to see what happens in that game world and how the machanics of the game work.Thats how i stuck in 40k.
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sadly i dont have any friends heavily into it, would make this so much easier lol. If my friend can get his set back from his friend I can check out his rule book.
I agree with the above guys. If you and your friend can both 'get into' the game at the same time that would help. What you need to get depends on how you are planning to play and how quickly you want to get into it.
If you just want to get a feel for the game the Battle for Skull Pass and your dining room table or floor will give you everything you need for you and a friend to have a simple game, but most of the customization and army choosing bits will be left out. If you go into a Games Workshop store and ask for a taster game they will probably even lend you that stuff.
If you join a club or go to a local store you only need a rule book, an army book and some models. One Battle for Skull Pass set, an Orc and Goblin army book and a Dwarf army book would give you everything you and your mate needed to play. The venue you play at will provide the other things you need. As Vindicator said, if you can have two copies of the box set between you, and you are happy to be those two races you can swap so one person has two sets of dwarfs and one two sets of goblins, making your armies a bit more like 'propper' armies, not just starter sets
Where you go next depends on how much you like what you have so far, how much time you have and how much money you have. The things you will have to consider are:
1) Are you happy with being Goblins or Dwarfs?
If not there are other armies out there. Buy a different army book and get some models for that army. The best way to start is with one of the Battalion sets. If you are happy with one of those you will eventually want to expand, especially if you only have 1 BFSP set. Again Battalion sets are a good way to go and ebay can be a cheap source.
2) Are you always going to play at a club, a store or at the house of someone who aready plays?
If you want to play in your own home you will need something to play on and some scenery to put on it. If you are short on time but have lots of money you can buy a table and some sets of scenery from Games Workshop. This will be very expensive however. A cheaper way to start is to buy a 6 foot by 4 foot sheet of green material form a market to lay on the floor. That can be your 'table'. Scenery can be made as well as bough, and this very forum has lots of good suggestions on how to make it. Various things can be used in the shot term to stand in for terrain, books under your sheet for hills, lego castles and toys or even boxs and some imagination.
Thanks for the suggestion.
If I was to start looking for extra starter set pieces of the dwarf/goblins on ebay so me and my friend could have 2 sets , about what price would it be worth to try to get it at?
Also, I was curious
are there other sets besides goblin pass out there that anyone would suggest? The store im gonna go check out, I wouldnt be surprised if they had older sets there also.
1 last thing
whats a good way to start learning which battalion I would have fun with the most? I see battalions I can get for around $60 so i wanna make sure ill invest in what ill enjoy.
Last edited by Slig; June 27th, 2009 at 15:53. Reason: last question
Your best bet is to eith choose one of the armies out of the BFSP set and either bulk up with more BFSP minatures off ebay/ a batallion, or buy a batallion for a compleatly different army.
The one thing I would suggest though is taking into account how many miniatures would be needed. As people above have said, games re made even by giving both sides a set number of points which they can 'spend' on buying troops. Not all troops cost the same amount of points, and armies where their basic troops are very powerful will be able to afford less models, while others with very cheap troops will be able to field many more.
From a collecting point of view this means that you will have to buy, assemble and paint a lot more goblins than you would dwarfs to play the same size game. If that is a concern you are probably better off asking someone who still actively plays fantasy as to which races need less miniatures (the last set I bought was the 1996 one, I could be more help with 40k I do know that personally I could face collecting 65 chaos warriors, while collecting 200 goblins would really put me off. The more 'elite' the army the less of a commitment in time and money, the more of a hoard style army, the more money and time needed.
thanks for all your help so far guys, its making my transition into the game not as scary.
I called up local hobby store, they sell battalions for $72-76 depending on army. So Ill call up my friend and see if hes still wants to get some games going. If he cant get a hold of his set from his friend, ill see if he wants to go 50/50 on the starter, or if he would prefer just to get some battalions.
I know chaos dwarves dont have a codex. But i found this http://www.blacklotusarts.com/capita...aos-dwarfs.pdf
was that the official GW info on the Chaos Dwarves before they took it down? If so, I was thinking just buying the skull pass for $50 for myself and just making 1 large chaos dwarf army to play with my friend for whatever he wants to grab.