Gandalf vs Vader

[BLADERUNNER]

Vader certainly has an aura of badassness around him but when all is said and done what stuff has he actually killed?......

Gandalf killed a Balrog could Vader?

I see a bumbersticker come from this. its just like WWJD?

[HappyJim]

Vader hands down, force lev Gandulfs stick and game over

[Inquisitor_Win]

If it's a fashion/"How cool do I look?" duel, Darth Vader wins with little effort.

In a combat scenario however, Gandalf would beat Vader. He is older, has more combat experience and has fought the darkests things in his univerese. "Just a Balrog" was not just a Balrog. Balrogs were ancient terrors that even predated Sauron [contemporary to Shelob], their power was rivaled only by dragons and they served Morgoth [Sauron was just Morgoth's lackey and see how much everyone feared HIM]

After Episode III came out [becoming Star Wars canon], Darth Vader's cowning achievement was to slaughter younglings. When confronted by a fully trained Jedi [Obi-Wan] he ended up in life support.

The force choke has some merit, but Gandalf can easily hurl a fireball at Vader and make him loose concentration like Luke did [when he pointed a steaming pipe/hose (not sure if it was hot or cold steam) at Vader, that was enough for him to back off (See their duel at Bespin for reference)]

Before episodes I, II and III, Vader's line of "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of The Force." had a mystic weight to it, enhanced by his frightful apearance. Now, in my humble opinion, it's jus hot words form a whinny killer of children.

[HappyJim]

To be fait it was hardly like he had a whole lot of jedi to even fight after ep3, hence the jedi purge, sorry mate vader wins hands down, he has a death star, gandalf dosnt have a x-wing so he can just blow up the planet gandulf is on.

[Inquisitor_Win]

To be fait it was hardly like he had a whole lot of jedi to even fight after ep3, hence the jedi purge, sorry mate vader wins hands down, he has a death star, gandalf dosnt have a x-wing so he can just blow up the planet gandulf is on.

Heh, I'm truly sorry; I thought the fight was "Vader vs Gandalf" as in one-on-one, my mistake. You're right. Short of Galactus [or a well placed, Force-guided X-Wing], the Death Star beats everything.

[lewbot1]

"Short of Galactus [or a well placed, Force-guided X-Wing], the Death Star beats everything."

Not Chuck Norris... Nothing beats Chuck

[HappyJim]

Heh, I'm truly sorry; I thought the fight was "Vader vs Gandalf" as in one-on-one, my mistake. You're right. Short of Galactus [or a well placed, Force-guided X-Wing], the Death Star beats everything.

Well vader is part of the empire, he had his crib on the deathstar for abit so i dont see why he cant use that :p

Not Chuck Norris... Nothing beats Chuck

what about the karate kid? he just has to do his crane pose, nothing can stand against it!