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I don't want to be a jerk, or whatever, but lately I've been seeing quite a few posts that are difficult and even impossible to understand due to bad spelling, grammar, and syntax. In the forums rules, it states:
Please also pay attention to proper spelling and punctuation, and be aware that the use of frequent line breaks makes your posts easier to read. If you have difficulties with spelling and grammar, use of a spell checker is advised. We do understand that not everyone is a native speaker of the English language, but this is no excuse for not availing yourself of the MS Word or the site's own downloadable spell-checker. Leet and other slang are forbidden.
We come from a lot of different backgrounds and quite a few of us aren't speaking English as a first language. One of the reasons I've enjoyed this forum so much is the fact that I can log on and enjoy reading each post. I can't do anything much about it, so I'm making what I hope is a polite and genuine appeal that posters try and keep the forum civil and write their posts decently, so that all can enjoy.
I couldn't have put it better myself. Good spelling and grammar makes a huge difference to a post and I hate trying to translate bad posts into proper English when I read them.
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I have to chime in here, too. I'm an editor by trade, so that makes me more picky than most, I agree, but still, it annoys me when people blatantly don't care.
No, I'm not talking about people for whom English is not their first language. I welcome any non-native English speaker here, and while I agree with the other posters, for the most part I'm willing to be a little more understanding with someone who is genuinely trying to improve his/her writing.
The ones that really bother me are those born and raised in this country, the UK, Oz, etc., who really have no excuse. Posts that use "ur," "u," and words with omitted vowells and other letters are an IM thing, and if it's cool to do it there, then by all means. I don't chat much, either on LO Chat or really anywhere else, so maybe I'm just too "unhip" to understand that culture, but if I did chat there and such phrasing is the norm, I'd do my best to blend in.
Forums, however, are a different culture. Mods feel free to correct me, but "Hackspeak" or "IMspeak" are NOT cool here. If you truncate or othewise needlessly abbreviate your words here, compared to chat, you don't look cool. You look uneducated. On LO, as in most other forums I read, you're expected to SPELL IT OUT, you know, like actual, um, what's the word? Oh yeah, writing! Forums and chat are two entirely different communications venues, and as far as I'm concerned, if you want to be active in both, you need to remember that, and accommodate.
If you didn't know that before, consider yourself informed. If you did, and you still insist on this pathetic attempt at heiroglyphic communication, well, you're lazy and rude, and I have little time for you.
I don't want my above post to be misinterpreted at all. My point on those for whom English is not a first language is that poor posts might be harder for them to read, not that they write poor posts (in fact, I would argue that I've found it to be the opposite, and that those who write in English as a second language often do a better job of it).
The mod team has been making an effort to crack down on this exact problem recently. It's becoming all too common amongst posters to be lazy with their typing.
LO prides itself on having a higher quality of posts than other forums; we really dislike when we see posts that contradict this.
We're willing to forgive a lot if people just try. But really, there is no excuse to not use a spell checker (FireFox comes with one built in) and use paragraphs.
I agree with all of this I signed up to LO because of two things one was the great advice offered and the second was the fact that rules like this made for well structured easy to read site.
Now i've never been one good at spelling and I do fall into the habbits of using IM launguage but it really isn't that much effort to re-read your post or use a spell check before hitting the post button.
The odd use of a u or what not wont kill a post but its just something that should be avoided because soon after letting those mistakes slip someones bound to start cutting down every word in ways that dont make sence, posting would become useless as you wouldnt understand the replys.
People who can take time to write a large post but not re-read it first are just lazy.
Thats my two cents.
In truth, I don't see this kind of thing all the time, but when I do it rubs me the wrong way. Guess I need a life.
It's nice to hear this support though for the use of correct English.
So thanks for all your posts.
LO RulesOriginally Posted by AnonymousOriginally Posted by Cyric
I agree totally with what has been said thus far in this thread. I moderate a particular 40k forum which also demands an extremely high standard re spelling, grammar, punctuation and so forth. I began posting on LO because I found that its standards had the same expectations, but I could relax back a bit rather than having the Mod Hat on all the time!
Good to hear that the Mod/Admin team here are doing a blitz on the poorer posters. I find "lazy" posts grate on the senses - instead of being able to read easily through something, you are confronted with leet speak, abbreviations or Text Speak. Thankfully, LO is another forum which abhors and forbids such rubbish.
As far as non-native English speakers are concerned: yes, the spellchecker is useful and indeed should be employed, but I also have to hand it to these guys. They are brave enough to come onto a forum which forces them to use a language which is not their own, and in some cases they will even (often unnecessarily) apologise for their English!
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