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    2k casual lizardmen army- First attempt, help needed!

    Lord: 460pts - 23%
    Slann Mage-Priest
    Arcane Items: Cupped Hands of the Old Ones, Bane Head
    Battle Standard Bearer (Standard of Discipline I think it’s called?)
    Disciplines: Focus of Mystery, Focused Rumination, Becalming Cogitation
    DEPLOYED IN TEMPLE GUARD, using Lore of Life

    Heroes: 400 – 20%

    Skink Priest
    Level 2 Wizard, must use lore of heavens?
    Ancient Stegadon with Engine of the Gods (might not be a great choice, but I bought the model and would like to use it)
    Enchanted Items: War Drums of Xahutec, Plaque of Tepok

    Core: 680pts – 34%
    20 Saurus warriors 5 wide block (270pts)
    Spears
    (Musician, Standard Bearer)

    20 Saurus warriors 5 wide block (270pts)
    Spears
    (Musician, Standard Bearer)

    10 Skink Skirmishers (70pts)
    10 Skink Skirmishers (70pts)

    Special: 291pts – 14.6%
    16 Temple Guard w/ Slann inside
    Full Command (guardian, musician, std bearer)

    Rare: 160pts - 8%
    1 Salamander hunting pack with extra handler (80pts)
    1 Salamander hunting pack with extra handler (80pts)

    Total: 1991pts

    Also, if there's a tactics section that I missed, I would appreciate the link.

    Thank you for your help!

    Who knows, maybe the mighty Sirkently will review this list!

    Last edited by Haven; July 24th, 2011 at 04:24.

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    After over two months without a response, is it safe to assume that no response equals good army?
    Last edited by Haven; September 18th, 2011 at 18:51.

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    Sorry mate, these forums are a ghost town. Unfortunately, I wouldn't expect a response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Lord: 460pts - 23%
    Slann Mage-Priest
    Arcane Items: Cupped Hands of the Old Ones, Bane Head
    Battle Standard Bearer (Standard of Discipline I think it’s called?)
    Disciplines: Focus of Mystery, Focused Rumination, Becalming Cogitation
    DEPLOYED IN TEMPLE GUARD, using Lore of Life

    Decent setup.

    Heroes: 400 – 20%

    Skink Priest
    Level 2 Wizard, must use lore of heavens?
    Ancient Stegadon with Engine of the Gods (might not be a great choice, but I bought the model and would like to use it)
    Enchanted Items: War Drums of Xahutec, Plaque of Tepok
    If you insist on keeping him, at least drop to level 1 and get rid of the wardrums (they aren't that useful anymore) and the plaque. Get a dispel scroll.

    Core: 680pts – 34%
    20 Saurus warriors 5 wide block (270pts)
    Spears
    (Musician, Standard Bearer)

    20 Saurus warriors 5 wide block (270pts)
    Spears
    (Musician, Standard Bearer)

    10 Skink Skirmishers (70pts)
    10 Skink Skirmishers (70pts)
    I am not a big fan of spears, so I would just go with hand weapon/shield. And you want to get the warrior blocks up to at least 24.

    Special: 291pts – 14.6%
    16 Temple Guard w/ Slann inside
    Full Command (guardian, musician, std bearer)
    Little small to take a miscast. I would suggest at least 20.

    Rare: 160pts - 8%
    1 Salamander hunting pack with extra handler (80pts)
    1 Salamander hunting pack with extra handler (80pts)

    Total: 1991pts

    Also, if there's a tactics section that I missed, I would appreciate the link.

    Thank you for your help!

    Who knows, maybe the mighty Sirkently will review this list!
    Sorry for the delay. I don't post nearly as much as I used to. About the list, I would consider dropping one of the warrior units. One block with a block of temple guard should be plenty. Just up the quantity of those blocks. With the points, more salamanders are always a good add. Oh, and you need to run your warriors 6 wide. More attacks good.

    Good luck,
    SirKently
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    Wow! Thanks SirKently!

    I thought you were a big fan of spears even with the 8th edition rule change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Wow! Thanks SirKently!

    I thought you were a big fan of spears even with the 8th edition rule change?
    Glad to help. As for spears, I don't like them simply because of the cost. Going hw/sh basically gives you one less kill, but saves one of your warriors. Everything else being equal, that would be fine. The extra point cost just puts me off of spears. I would rather have the points. As I usually run blocks of 30, that 30 extra points, or 60 if I am running two blocks, really comes in handy.

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    okay well i tought i would point out your points are wrong on both the slann and the skink priest, the slann is 470 or 475 (forgot how much the bane head costs) and the skink priest is 435 and not 400. hope this helps.

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    Lord: 460pts - 23%
    Slann Mage-Priest
    Arcane Items: Cupped Hands of the Old Ones, Bane Head
    Battle Standard Bearer (Standard of Discipline I think it’s called?)
    Disciplines: Focus of Mystery, Focused Rumination, Becalming Cogitation
    DEPLOYED IN TEMPLE GUARD, using Lore of Life

    Heroes: 405 – 20%

    Skink Priest
    Level 1 Wizard, must use lore of heavens
    Ancient Stegadon with Engine of the Gods (might not be a great choice, but I bought the model and would like to use it)
    2 x Dispel Scrolls

    Core: 536pts – 27%
    30 Saurus warriors w/ Spears 6 wide block
    Full command (Champ, Musician, Standard Bearer)

    10 Skink Skirmishers + 1 brave <---brave to drop some extra pts.
    10 Skink Skirmishers


    Special: 355pts – 18%

    20 Temple Guard w/ Slann inside
    Full Command (guardian, musician, std bearer)

    Rare: 240pts - 12%
    1 Salamander hunting pack with extra handler
    1 Salamander hunting pack with extra handler
    1 Salamander hunting pack with extra handler

    Total: 1996pts

    I've re-tooled the army according to your outstanding feedback, however, If I drop the spears from the 30 warriors and got ride of the brave skink skirmisher, I'm not really sure what that 36 pts would be used for instead? Ideas?
    Last edited by sirkently; October 6th, 2011 at 19:19.

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    Couple things to point out here. First, you can't take 2 dispel scrolls. One arcane item per character, and no doubles in the army. Second, you can only take 2 of the same rare below 3k points. So, your salamanders will have to double up for one unit of 2 and the other of 1.

    So dropping the spears and brave gets you 36 points. The extra scroll gives you another 25 for 61 points. The unit of two salamanders doesn't need the extra handlers, so that brings you up to 71 points. Now you haven't paid for your standard of discipline in your calculations, so that is 15 points IIRC, so that drops you to 56 points. You don't need a champ in the warrior unit, so there are the points for a unit of either regular skinks, or some chameleon skinks.

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    Last edited by sirkently; October 6th, 2011 at 22:51.
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    Lord: 450pts - 23%
    Slann Mage-Priest
    Arcane Items: Cupped Hands of the Old Ones, Bane Head
    Battle Standard Bearer (Standard of Discipline)
    Disciplines: Focus of Mystery, Focused Rumination, Becalming Cogitation
    DEPLOYED IN TEMPLE GUARD, using Lore of Life

    Heroes: 380pts – 19%
    Skink Priest
    Level 1 Wizard, must use lore of heavens
    Ancient Stegadon with Engine of the Gods
    Dispel Scroll x 1

    Core: 488pts – 24.4% <----0.6 below the minimum requirement, or 0.1 if you can round up
    30 Saurus warriors with HW/SH 6 wide block
    (Musician, Standard Bearer)

    10 Skink Skirmishers
    10 Skink Skirmishers


    Special: 451pts – 23%
    20 Temple Guard w/ Slann inside
    Full Command: guardian, musician, std bearer

    8 Chameleon Skinks

    Rare: 230pts - 12%
    2 Salamander hunting pack
    1 Salamander hunting pack with extra handler

    Total: 1999pts

    I really appreciate both your patience and amazing assistance. I've adjusted the list, hopefully, one last time to get it right. The core is short 0.6% (or 0.1 if you can round up) by my calculations to meet the 25% minimum core requirement.
    Last edited by sirkently; October 6th, 2011 at 22:56. Reason: Remove individual point costs which are illegal to post.

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