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    So...new Army Book. What's coming up?

    Well, the new book is at all the stores now. What do the Lizardmen players see as the powerhouse builds? Those poison bolt throwers look nasty to me.


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    Well so far I'm really excited about everything except how much cash all my kroxigors are going to cost
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    yeah kroxigars and razordons
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    I'm not sure what the powerhouse builds will be. The mass stego army is possible, although I'm not very confident on how it will actually preform on the table.

    Filling out core with skink/krox units does look like it would be pretty nice, however with the skinks terrible WS/T they will just drop like fly's giving the evemy some nice CR. However I heard the squads like this were completely dominate over saurus back in 5th ed. However I didn't start Fantasy untill 6th ed. so i never got to test them out myself or see whats differnt between the old skink/krox combo, and the new one.

    Going magic heavy could be pretty powerhouse (with help of the engine of the gods, and the Astromancer skink preist SC). However with Lizard's still only with the rulebook lores, and priests still only allowed the lore of Heavans you can't customise your magic to take on any oppenent, makking it less effective.

    I predict more lists will contain Oldbloods on Carasouars as the upgrades to the carny are quite nice. However again Lizzies don't have the greatest magic equipment and again the lot's of it are situational and not effective against every army.

    However this doesn't bother me to much, as I prefer winning with a more balanced list that isn't an auto win.

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    I think one common build will be the slann in the temple guard bunker. Throw in a priest with the engine of the gods. Another skink priest and either a saurus scar-vet or chakax. Then whatever support units will fit.

    Another will be an oldblood on a carnasaur with some saurus cavalry. Throw in some saurus, skinks, and stegs.

    The last I see is an oldblood on a cold one with the blade of realities. This is probably the one that will max out on the stegs.

    That is what I see coming though I don't know which will be the power build. Probably the slann.
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    Skinks + Krox were the norm in 5th edition and they seem to be making a good comback for similar reasons.

    The reasoning is pretty straight forward (though I've not read the exact rules on mixed units).

    They are a mutual support unit. The skinks give the Krox a high volume of low strength attacks for helping them break weak units (goblins and men). They also give the Krox full combat rez (STD, rank, outnumber). The Krox in turn give the skins a group of hella powerful attacks, and fear AND extra US.

    Rankable skinks are 5 points a pop now.

    Ranking them 6 wide with 2 Krox, you can fit 22 skins, with full command into a big block. This block has 4 ranks, standard, fear, US 30, and puts out 6 Str 6 attacks and 7 Str 3 attacks a turn. 250ish points.

    They aren't the block troops that Saurus can be, but they give an interesting (and fast MV 6) way to play blocks of infantry.

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    But the question is do those Kroxigor's give that skink unit fear for purposes of outnumbering for Autobreak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpeerson2000 View Post
    But the question is do those Kroxigor's give that skink unit fear for purposes of outnumbering for Autobreak?
    During 5th edition they didn't. It's reasonable rule and I also expect it in a new book.
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    The part of the unit that causes fear has to outnumber, so it'd only count the krox. That'd be my guess.


    I think the combat res from the skinks might be countered by the mass skink slaughter that most units can do. You'd need to get the charge(not hard) and kill the front rank.

    Don't forget a skink/krox unit can never do a turn manuever.

    Also, we couldn't find anywhere in the book that said stegadon mounts cost special/rare choices, so you could fir a lord of karny 3 skinks of stegadons and then 3x10skinks and fill the rest out with like 3-4 stegadons. That's a boatload of monsters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redphantasm View Post
    Skinks + Krox were the norm in 5th edition and they seem to be making a good comback for similar reasons.

    The reasoning is pretty straight forward (though I've not read the exact rules on mixed units).

    They are a mutual support unit. The skinks give the Krox a high volume of low strength attacks for helping them break weak units (goblins and men). They also give the Krox full combat rez (STD, rank, outnumber). The Krox in turn give the skins a group of hella powerful attacks, and fear AND extra US.

    Rankable skinks are 5 points a pop now.

    Ranking them 6 wide with 2 Krox, you can fit 22 skins, with full command into a big block. This block has 4 ranks, standard, fear, US 30, and puts out 6 Str 6 attacks and 7 Str 3 attacks a turn. 250ish points.

    They aren't the block troops that Saurus can be, but they give an interesting (and fast MV 6) way to play blocks of infantry.
    can you get a standard, or do they just rank up? Why wouldn't you use 3 kroxigors? thelimit is 1 krox for every 8 skinks. I'd want at least 3 on the 2nd row to give 9 str6 attacks. their I and WS is so low on all of them that I'd still be concerned about doing any wounds except you get the charge.

    @Pinkus - why can't they turn? They are severly limited if the unit can't turn.
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