How do you deal with WoC?

[el_don]

According to the BRB "a maximum of 6 power dice can be used on each spell." While the bonus die is free, it is still a power die as stated in the lizardman book. Therefore, you cannot throw 7 dice at any spell. Some can get to 7 dice, for example the goblin shaman with magic mushrooms, but they specifically say they are not "power dice" which gets around the BRB rule. We have no such exemption.

SirKently

This is wrong all over.

Lizardmen Army Book, p.43:

The Focused Rumination
When the Slann casts a spell, a 'free' power dice is added to the attempt. This ... can cause the Mage-Priest to roll more dice than normally allowed.

Lizardmen FAQ, p.3:

Q. Does the ‘free’ power dice gained from Focused Rumination
count against the power limit? (p43)
A. Yes.

BRB, p.30:

POWER LIMIT
There is a finite limit on the amount of power a Wizard can control. The casting player's power pool can never exceed 12 dice at any point in the phase - any dice generated beyond this number are lost.

The FAQ is specifically about the power limit, ie., the total number of dice a player can have in his casting pool. If you roll double-six on the Winds Of Magic, you can't use The Focused Rumination to generate an extra dice as you would exceed your power limit of twelve dice. However, the rule for The Focused Rumination specifically says you can use the extra dice to roll more dice than normally allowed, which is a reference to the six-dice limit mentioned in BRB p.32.

@Jesse Newton is 100% correct.

[sirkently]

However, the rule for The Focused Rumination specifically says you can use the extra dice to roll more dice than normally allowed, which is a reference to the six-dice limit mentioned in BRB p.32.

This isn't actually a reference to anything anymore. The lizardmen book came out well before the 8th edition rule book, so there is no way it would reference it. It is an old reference to the 7th edition rule about maximum power dice you could use the cast a spell based on your level. Really outdated.

Every tournament I have been in or heard about has said that the 6 die limit applies to the slann including the focused rumination.

SirKently

[el_don]

This isn't actually a reference to anything anymore. The lizardmen book came out well before the 8th edition rule book, so there is no way it would reference it. It is an old reference to the 7th edition rule about maximum power dice you could use the cast a spell based on your level. Really outdated.

Every tournament I have been in or heard about has said that the 6 die limit applies to the slann including the focused rumination.

SirKently

Given that the Army Book specifically says that Focused Rumination allows the Slann to cast using more dice than would usually be allowed, I can't understand how that ruling would ever be made.

[sirkently]

There was something somewhere that actually explicitly stated that the slann couldn't use 7 dice. I am trying to find it. I was something along the lines of magic mushrooms would let you go over because they weren't power dice, but the slann couldn't because he used actual power dice. I am still looking for where I saw that.

SirKently