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Yes its another wish list,
But it looks like the Lizardmen section is still warming itself in the sun and is in need a bit of boost, and a wish list is always a good way to bring a bit of life into the forum. So anything goes, from new models, new rules, new units, changes to exsisting units, new characters, which magic items you would want to keep in an 8th ed variant book (bearing in mind 8-10 items is the norm), etc. What do you think is good about the exsisting book, and what do you think needs adressing.
Anything and everything is up for discussion, so let rip.
One thing i would love to see, is for kroxigor to be usefull when fielded as a stand alone unit. Make them S5 with the options to also take a handweapon and shield (not that i can see that option beeing used often over gws). That or just a big old points reduction.
Another big model is a must, to go toe to toe with the the other big beasties these days which dwarf our stegadons and carnosaurs.
Might be nice to get spawnings back like in the old WD issue, where skink priests could then also take other magic lores than heavens.
Hmmm, pleanty of views but no posts.
So either Lizardmen have lost all of thier appeal, or people dont want a thing about them to change...
Personally i think it is down alot to them recently having one list which everyone takes, because it works. The only real varient to it is what lore your slann is taking, and weather you go for more saurus or a block of temple guard. The things which give an army its real flavour and theme simply dont make it into even the balanced lists in anything under 2500pts. You take a slann bsb in temple guard, 2 units of HW&S Saurus, 2 units of salamanders, them some chameleon skinks. If your lucky you squeeze in another character or a unit or two of normal skinks to redirect.
Lizardmen could do with list specialisation, similar to High Elves, and i think this is where the idea of spawnings being reintrodced could be a big boon for the army. Temple guard can stay templeguard, but it would be nice to have vareint saurus, to field as special or even rare units. Skinks also could benifit to a lesser degree. Yes they have chameleon skinks, but imagen saurus with specialisations like that. To be Honest, I would be happy with just Sotek Spawning, just so you can have another elite saurus unit, maybe with snake lower halves, and i would love another skink varient, too many might just be a bit too much like high elves.
On Skinks, the option for all thier weapons to be poisoned would be nice, meaning a ranked unit has the potential to kill things from poisoned. (im pretty sure only blow pipes are poisoned at moment but not entirely sure.)
More monsters maybe for hunting parties, they have 2, a third would be okay, but as it stands people only realy take salamanders at the minute. I wouldnt be apposed to a variation of the old old salamander, which acted like a 24" stone thrower.
Hopefully the would chuck in some not so pointless heroes as well. Sure they are okay in themed lists but in general, maybe only 1 or 2 would you give much thought on.
just because there no posts im gonna post something
i think fluff wise they do not need anymore monsters, although spawnings need to come back (sotek!) and possibly horned one cav. skinks sould be nothing more than meatsheilds tho, remember they were created as administrators
i do agree that more useless characters would be nice, although they sorta have one from each category already.
Lizards are currently an actually quite balanced army. I have seen various builds and seen them all do quite well. There are a few things that I think should make it into the next army book.
1)Skink Horned One Cavalry, as KarlFranz mentioned. Just regular fast cav armed with javelins or blowpipes (plus the jungle poison rule).
2)A plain skink lord of some sort. Just for the option of a full skink army.
3)The albino Kroxigor character.
Those three are the biggest add ons I would want to see, though some small adjustments to prices for some units (Kroxigor, Cold One Cavalry) would be quite nice as well.
As for the magic items in the book. I would want these:
Reverd Blade of Tzinki, Burning Blade of Chotec, Cold One Hide, Stegadon Helm, Cube of Darkness, Cupped Hands of the Old Ones, Skaven Pelt Banner, Sun Standard of Chotec . . . . . throw in one or two more and its all good.
with the magic items......unlikely to happen seening the direction GW is taking with the new armybooks (lizzies will be lucky to have a quater of their current magic items the next update).
as for an albino kroxigor character, isnt there one mentioned in the lore (i dont know his name of the top of my head)? i do want to see him in the game tho.
As a lizardmen player I would love to have a bit more monsters. Some new strong flying monster/monstrous cavalry would be nice. Stronger kroxigors and a better initiative for saurus with a bit point increase. I love as mentioned early the old "spawn marks". I always like to have some options. And I think the current book has to few options. Also a better skink chief would be nice because the only time I use one is with the stegadon spear...
be nice to have some monstrous cavalry and big monster. would be neet if they came out with something like a special magic platform that you could equip a slann with to make him MORE awesome, he wouldnt be able to be in a unit while on this platform but maybe boosted spell range or casting values? gooo wish listing!!
I think all that lizardmen lack is variety ! The thing that stops me being a die hard lizardmen player is simply the fact that there aren't many units to choose from when making an army list compared to an army like skaven, orcs & gobs or skaven etc... Not saying they need the variety because Lizardmen are so strong ! But I play for fun rather than competetively so I like to try different, silly and interesting tactics that I find hillarious, but I'm strange that way
I would like to see the "spawn" markings return, better cold one models, the "beefy" look the sarus one had, and Krox being useful again.
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