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I've been playing against a Dark Elves with my Lizardmen, and so far have come up with a Draw and a Solid Loss.
He uses, from what I know, a fairly uncommon DE list, and I really need advice on beating him. He takes (1000 points):
Lvl 2 Sorceress with Lifetaker
Noble on Cold One with Hydra Banner
8 Cold One Knights
Cold One Chariot
I have available(models wise):
10 Blowpipe Skinks
20 Javelin Skinks
2 Jungle Swarms
6 Chameleon Skinks
1 Dogs Of War Cannon (It's a Weapon Of The Old Ones. A conversion)
Well from what I can see, your main problem will be the cold one knights!!
This list isn't too unusual, but it may take some beating.
The following are some suggestions on how to deal with it
1) Kroxigors can break his chariot in one well aimed strike, so try and make sure that they get to that first.
2) Swarms are a great way to hold his cold one knights up for a turn so you can get a flank charge with the saurus, who should be accompanied by a scar veteran with a great weapon!!
3) A skink priest Lv2 with 2 dispel scrolls should be able to hold the magic phase off for you!!
4) Use some scouting skinks to stop march movements and to shoot the hell out of his crossbowmen/corsairs
I hope this helps!!
Scar-vet /w/ GW, LA, Shield, Blood Statuette Of Spite
Skink Priest /w/ Lvl 2, Dispel Scroll, Scout
16 Saurus /w/ Full Command
10 Javelin Skinks
10 Blowpipe Skinks /w/ Scout
Scar-vet joins Saurus and uses the Statuette to kill the Sorceress
Priest stops spells and whittles at the infantry
Saurus flank charge knights who are held up by swarms
Javelins shield the Saurus/Kroxis
Blowpipes shoot up Bolthrower/Crossbows and march block
Swarms hold up the knights for flank charge from Saurus
Kroxis make firewood out of chariot, then move on to remaining infantry/knights
Salamander spits at the Corsairs and moves in when they're down to three or four.
Now I just need to fit all this into 1000 points! If I need to drop anything, what should it be?
Any other comments? Thankyou!
Well I would now put the points up as a new thread in the army list forum and do a link to this thread in there.
I would drop one saurus so that your unit has 4 ranks of 4 and with the points get 2 more skinks. That shouls screen you alright till you get to there lines. You could have a small unit of chamelion skinks for war machine hunting, as they can be really close!!!
I hope that helps
I can't be that much help with Army List, but your friend's army is illegal.
That Battle Standard Bearer Noble is, at any rate, he has Leadership 9, the Sorceress is Leadership 8, the Noble must be the General and cannot be the Battle Standard Bearer.
He needs another Noble in there to be the General.
(It's surprising how many people think a Sorceress can be General while a Noble's Battle Standard... here... Portent...)
Well, due to your Dumbies having those crunchy weapons, and you have somethign Unbreakable, use the Swarms to take the impact of the Chariot and/or Knights, then flank with the big brutes you have.
I would try killing the Sorceress.
Warriors with Repeater Crossbows can be a pain to your Skinks, despite hitting on 5/6+, with 20 shots a turn they'll rip them to peices, and with short ranged Blow Pipes, I'd make your small things Scouts to get close and pop them.
Engage the Corsairs with a mass, break them and cut them down.
The Reaper can be annoying to your brutes, try to cover them with a small unit of Skinks or something... Try killing the crew with Skinks as well.
"The streets a flame, the people in flame,
The Apolapsy Four Ride out again.
The flame of Hell are freezing over,
And Heaven is falling out of the sky!
Is it any wonder that the world is going to burn in a cleansing flame?
Is it any wonder that the world is coming to a realigious end?"
there isn't a point in tking the lv 2 upgrade on the priest, he still only contributes a single Dispell Dice.
try using cameleon skinks, he'll need 6s or 7s to hit with the repeater crossbows.
I will use Lvl 2, because my first turn magic phase will look like this:
(by this point he will have no Dispel Dice left)
Use Bound Spell: Blood Statuette Of Spite on Sorceress
Me: 4 Power Dice in other phases
Him: 2 Dispel Dice in other phases
So I need the Lvl 2 to draw out his Power Dice and then take advantage of my magical superiority after the Sorceress explodes.
Chameleon Skinks... Last game they spent three turns trying to kill the Bolthrower, killed it on the third, and then killed 6 Crossbows on the fourth and fifth... So if I have any space in my list I'll include them. Would you recommend me dropping the Blowpipes skinks if I can't find room?
Last edited by Revlid; July 18th, 2005 at 17:10.
That would be sweet... a converted cannon with vines growing all around it and runes carved on its side. Make it an obsidian type rock and have the glowing and it would be a sweet engine of the gods...
NEVER EVER just take one salamander. It's no use and it does nothing. (except kill a teensy bit) Take them in 3s.
Maybe disperse ur skinks in 3 regiments? 10-10-10? And lure his troops or tie them up so they can't do anything haha
Oh yeah, and since he has 8 cold one knights, take like 5 kroxigors to match it up. and take one more swarm. scrap the chameleons and get the terradons instead. And that weird siege weapon... choose between salamanders or them.
And 2 blocks would be better than one. He out manoveurs you easily... tying you up with ten corsairs and charging you with the COKS, which probably just kills ur whole squad.
Try and tie the COKS up . And the corsairs. if ur swarms are far away, then just use them to protect flanks.
And... against elves the strength 7 is over kill with saurus scar vet... unless against coks. use scimitar of sun respledent... if he dies, ur infantry has same ld anyway so who cares. Just give him good armour save, and he'll survive.
If you have faith in your dice rolling, get the charm of the jaguar warrior and great weapon or whatever that combo is. You will be able to run faster than chariots and COKS :eek: and can run in, flank charge or rear and slice through them like butter with strength 7. :lol:
That's all i can think of at the moment