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CaptainClegg · February 14th, 2005, 21:23

OOPS I PUT IT IN THE WRONG FORUM. MODS PLEASE MOVE TO ARMY LIST SECTION. I POSTED HERE ON ACCIDENT. I APOLOGIZE

Well I might be in my first tourney the end of this month but I am still fairly new to 40k. This will be the biggest point game I have played and I know I will probably get crushed but I am going for the learning expirence. With that said I have 2 lists I have put together and wanted some help on which one I should use.

First One (A more balance list)

Lord VoD/RO

30 Warriors

10 Immortals

7 Scarab Swarms

5 Destroyers

4 Heavy Destroyers

1 Monolith
1849 total
phase out at 13

Second list (troop heavy)

2 Lords RO

50 Warriors

6 Destroyers

4 Heavy Destroyers

2 Tomb Spiders
1850 Total
phase out at 16

Any help would be great!!!

CaptainClegg · February 14th, 2005, 21:46

I just realized that my second list might be illegal. I have too many heavy support choices or am I ok?

Gojiratoho · February 14th, 2005, 21:56

No, you're good, but you are at exactly 3 for HS in the second list. The Spyders can be taken together as one HS choice but deployed seperatly, and the Heavy D's can be taken in units of no more than 3 (so I'd suggest 2 units of 2 and keep them close together.

CaptainClegg · February 14th, 2005, 22:20

Ok great thanks for clearing that up. Any thoughts on my lists?

kryzak · February 15th, 2005, 01:13

List 1 is more fun, but list 2 will prevent you from phasing out better. At 1850 points, you need AT LEAST 40-50 warriors (or equivalent of Flayed Ones) to make sure you don't phase out.

Here's a quick suggestion for you:

Lord with VoD and Orb
Lord with Destroyer Body and Orb
42 Warriors - 15, 15, 12 or 14 x 3
10 Immortals
2 x 2 Heavy D
1 Tomb Spyder
8 Scarabs with Dis Field
1849, Necrons 58, Phase out at 14

With the 280 pts in Immortals, you can trade it out for 5 Destroyers or a monolith and more warriors... just remember, with most lists at this point total, you can only take ONE full squad of Immortals/Destroyers/Monolith while keeping your warrior count high...

hope that helps!

CaptainClegg · February 16th, 2005, 04:05

Yeah I figured list 2 everyone would be recommend but I still would like some more feedback. Does anyone think list 1 could work?

CaptainClegg · February 18th, 2005, 19:27

Alright what about this one. . .

2 Lords w/RO

40 Warriors

10 Scarab Swarms

6 Destroyers

3 Heavy Destroyers

1 Monolith

1850 Total
62 Models
51 Necron
Phase out at 13

kingkrispy · February 21st, 2005, 20:40

Nice list, however, I HATE scarabs and would probably take them out for some flayed ones.

Lord Visharron · February 23rd, 2005, 23:01

Ironically, I'm not following my own advice for 1850 pts, mostly because I don't have the models built and painted yet... but here's my 1850pt tourney list for your reference. Not sure if it'll work, but decided to not take the Monolith this time in case it gets popped too easily.

- Lord with Orb/Veil
- Lord with Destroyer body/phase shifter/Orb/Warscythe
- 3 x 12 Warriors
- 2 x 3 Destroyers
- 2 x 2 Heavy Destroyers
- 10 Scarabs with Disruption field
- Tomb Spyder

Total 1833 pts, Necrons 48, Phase out at 12.

might take 1 or 2 scarabs out to add 1-2 more warriors to increase phase out.

Iluvanos · February 24th, 2005, 19:24

Personaly, i like list 1 better. I like more variety in groups then just tons of troops. but that my opinion, and i a noob, so you shouldnt listen to me tooo much
anyway, all are good.

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CaptainClegg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 274 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 64	<a onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outgoing/http_d1_openx_org_ck_php_n_a83f474f_amp_cb_46587945173');" rel='nofollow' href='http://d1.openx.org/ck.php?n=a83f474f&cb=46587945173' target='_blank'><img src='http://d1.openx.org/avw.php?zoneid=22572&cb=46587945173&n=a83f474f' border='0' alt='' /></a> OOPS I PUT IT IN THE WRONG FORUM. MODS PLEASE MOVE TO ARMY LIST SECTION. I POSTED HERE ON ACCIDENT. I APOLOGIZE Well I might be in my first tourney the end of this month but I am still fairly new to 40k. This will be the biggest point game I have played and I know I will probably get crushed but I am going for the learning expirence. With that said I have 2 lists I have put together and wanted some help on which one I should use. First One (A more balance list) Lord VoD/RO 30 Warriors 10 Immortals 7 Scarab Swarms 5 Destroyers 4 Heavy Destroyers 1 Monolith 1849 total phase out at 13 Second list (troop heavy) 2 Lords RO 50 Warriors 6 Destroyers 4 Heavy Destroyers 2 Tomb Spiders 1850 Total phase out at 16 Any help would be great!!!

February 14th, 2005, 21:56	#3 (permalink)
Gojiratoho LO Zealot Join Date: May 2004 Location: Earth> USA> NewYork> Schenectady> My Pants Age: 32 Posts: 1,791 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 75	No, you're good, but you are at exactly 3 for HS in the second list. The Spyders can be taken together as one HS choice but deployed seperatly, and the Heavy D's can be taken in units of no more than 3 (so I'd suggest 2 units of 2 and keep them close together. __________________ Gyauayuayuayua! Ja! Ve vill crush da little girly men in deir little girl men awrmor! Ve vill see owur enemies driven befowur us, und hear da lahmentaytions of deir wemen. Und from owur home planet, de stayte uf Califowurnia, ve vill lawunch owur mighty offensive. Even if you kill us, ve'll be bach!! Gyauayauyauyauyau! -Arnoldunit Schwarzenecronegger; when questioned about the impending doom he would rain down upon the heads of his doomed enemies.

February 21st, 2005, 20:40	#8 (permalink)
kingkrispy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hell! Posts: 261 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 61	Nice list, however, I HATE scarabs and would probably take them out for some flayed ones. __________________ <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> They will shoot you and cut you up and step on the pieces and burn them and assemble the ashes and shoot them again and grind them into sand and scatter the sand into the sea and boil the sea away and gather the hardened remains and melt them into a rock and shoot the rock and burn what's left and launch the remains into the sun and... </div> or <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>The most powerful gun in the galaxy won't help if your opponent if bashing your brains out with a rock</div>

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Iluvanos Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 58	Personaly, i like list 1 better. I like more variety in groups then just tons of troops. but that my opinion, and i a noob, so you shouldnt listen to me tooo much anyway, all are good. __________________ Fear not the light for I am the darkness, fear not the darkness for I am the light. Fear what you do not know, for that is I. I am niether the light nor the darkness, the good or the evil, I am the omnipotent force that drives them, the force that controls them. The force that you do not see, but is always there. I am neither living nor dead, alive or dying, but i am the existence, the existence of what you did, and of what you did not do.

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February 14th, 2005, 21:46	#2 (permalink)
CaptainClegg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 274 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 64	I just realized that my second list might be illegal. I have too many heavy support choices or am I ok?

February 14th, 2005, 22:20	#4 (permalink)
CaptainClegg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 274 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 64	Ok great thanks for clearing that up. Any thoughts on my lists?

February 15th, 2005, 01:13	#5 (permalink)
kryzak Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: California, USA Posts: 144 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 63	List 1 is more fun, but list 2 will prevent you from phasing out better. At 1850 points, you need AT LEAST 40-50 warriors (or equivalent of Flayed Ones) to make sure you don't phase out. Here's a quick suggestion for you: Lord with VoD and Orb Lord with Destroyer Body and Orb 42 Warriors - 15, 15, 12 or 14 x 3 10 Immortals 2 x 2 Heavy D 1 Tomb Spyder 8 Scarabs with Dis Field 1849, Necrons 58, Phase out at 14 With the 280 pts in Immortals, you can trade it out for 5 Destroyers or a monolith and more warriors... just remember, with most lists at this point total, you can only take ONE full squad of Immortals/Destroyers/Monolith while keeping your warrior count high... hope that helps!

February 16th, 2005, 04:05	#6 (permalink)
CaptainClegg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 274 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 64	Yeah I figured list 2 everyone would be recommend but I still would like some more feedback. Does anyone think list 1 could work?

February 18th, 2005, 19:27	#7 (permalink)
CaptainClegg Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 274 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 64	Alright what about this one. . . 2 Lords w/RO 40 Warriors 10 Scarab Swarms 6 Destroyers 3 Heavy Destroyers 1 Monolith 1850 Total 62 Models 51 Necron Phase out at 13

February 23rd, 2005, 23:01	#9 (permalink)
Lord Visharron Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: California Posts: 246 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 59	Ironically, I'm not following my own advice for 1850 pts, mostly because I don't have the models built and painted yet... but here's my 1850pt tourney list for your reference. Not sure if it'll work, but decided to not take the Monolith this time in case it gets popped too easily. - Lord with Orb/Veil - Lord with Destroyer body/phase shifter/Orb/Warscythe - 3 x 12 Warriors - 2 x 3 Destroyers - 2 x 2 Heavy Destroyers - 10 Scarabs with Disruption field - Tomb Spyder Total 1833 pts, Necrons 48, Phase out at 12. might take 1 or 2 scarabs out to add 1-2 more warriors to increase phase out.