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#1 · (Edited)
I've always looked at this site as a nexus for everything warhammer. Although I suppose there is an extreme majority of influence from the tabletop. I can understand not getting too involved with Dawn of War and Mark of Chaos, but Age of Reckoning and eveidently the 40k MMO will change GW forever if they succeed (and they will). One thing I would encourage LO to do is embrace these MMOs and hope that a new generation of tabletop players are discovered because of it. Otherwise, the fear is that MMO success will steer the company we've known and loved away from their roots. Either case think of the new traffic you'll more than likley pull in if you build up a repoire with the MMO community.

To cut to the chase, I think a whole new section should be made in the forums section, on the same tier as warhammer 40k and warhammer fantasy battle. WAR as of right not does not have an offical message board and for the time being they encourage communities to be their eyes and ears. I think thats a smashing oppertunity to be one of the top representatives. Another great possibility would be to later on represent characters and monsters from the MMO in the tabletop game.
 
#5 ·
Agreed. I've played a number of MMOs*, and oftentimes I find the official Web site/forum for a game is lacking in a number of areas (hard game data, maps, quest walkthroughs, character builds), and find myself gravitating towards a third party site. City of Heroes had probably the best official forum I've used, but aside from that I've always used other sources, even when there were official forums.

-H

*Lord of the Rings Online (current), Everquest 2, Tabula Rasa, City of Heroes/Villains, Dark Age of Camelot, MajorMUD (for those of you who remember that venerable text-based BBS game =D)
 
#6 ·
We as the LO community dont even need to get hardcore, just start small and build from there. You never know what kind of attention you'll draw. Now I plan on plunging head first into this mmo, and have been a member on the site for altogether different reasons for some time. I would love to be a part of the project, if not to mod the MMO section than to at least try to keep it vitilized with good posts. Good luck either case!
 
#9 ·
Now our definitions of small might be different. I do think that these sections warrent just as much attention at least heading wise as 40k/FB however I'm saying in reference to some of the other MMO sites we would stay fairly low-key. Our target would be the crossover audience whom play both tabletop and MMO or the MMO'ers interested in starting or just reading about the tabletop. Remember in the collectors edition of the WAR release they offer an exclusive miniature for the game. Their goals are no different than what ours should be. In time after we've seen the course of our actions we can get deeper involved.

I personally would like to see the standard MMO subsections

General
Guild
Server
Stratigies

etc... things like this just to get people posting and involved.
Of course for now we could see some pre-release sections.

What will you play
Speculation
Guild
Open Beta Logue
 
#10 ·
Honestly, I think even that may be starting too big - creating a new forum with several sub-forums seems like a stretch when we don't have much indication that there will be enough activity to support it. I think perhaps a single subforum to start. We can expand from there if needed.

As Mr. Nemesis said, we're a tabletop gaming community first and foremost. While there is an undeniable connection between the tabletop game and WAR, we'd be looking at drawing traffic from those who are enthusiastic about both, and to perhaps introduce MMO players to the tabletop hobby. I don't know that many people would be opposed to the MMO section growing to the extent that it takes a larger chunk of our community, but it's something that has to develop. After all, which would give a new visitor more pause: A small but active section of the community, or many subforums with little activity?

In short, I think it would be best to let the forum structure develop as a result of use than try to create an infrastructure and assume people will use it.
 
#15 ·
I think perhaps a single subforum to start. We can expand from there if needed.
I'm thinking the opposite. Start at a respectable size, and then either grow or trim from there. Nothing too big, but something large enough to be appealing. Limiting ourselves right from the start is only going to turn away newcomers that mistakenly believe that we're not going to cater to their needs.

I envision something along these lines -
Subforum for general chit-chat about WAR.
Subforum for each race, but not each class. (Alternatively, we can do subforums for race archetypes, like 'Tanks', 'DPS', 'Healers', 'Hybrids', etc, but I don't know enough of the races to pigeonhole anything yet.)
PvP discussion (which may fall under general. The game revolves around PvP, so may as well have it's own subforum)
UI and Mods

That's not an extremely large footprint, especially if we keep the race forums organized (maybe split them into 'Good' and 'Bad' subforums first)

If certain subforums seem under utilized, we can always migrate threads and remove subforums.

While I do agree that LO is first and foremost a forum for tabletop gamers, I also recognize that times and trends change and sometimes we have to adapt with them.
 
#11 ·
I really think thats the wrong attitude. Look at how WOW blew up from WC3. I'm sure your a tabletop game forum, but your also a warhammer forum. Shooting it down because you don't know what will happen is short sighted. How hard would it be to correct it later on if it doesnt get big? MMOs bring traffic. And seriously organization has nothing to do with capacity IMO. So what if it doesnt get a lot of traffic its a catagory occupying virtual space. The only way you can earn traffic is to build the road for it to occupy.
 
#13 ·
It would be far less hassle to start small and get bigger than to start big and have to break it down. For all we know, there will be other sites dedicated to it that people would rather go to; there will be 10 members tops on LO who will buy it and play it and keep it; there's no way in telling. If you build a structure of forums that nobody uses, it's just a waste of time. If you build up one forum and it ends up booming, then you can start building that structure up.
 
#14 ·
I've been thinking this for a while, I agree with Domstae it would be totally badass if there when WAR is released all the members of LO that are going to get it could all group up somewhere in game if were all Good/Evil and the right race and could form a clan/guild and just have fun the night of release.
 
#16 ·
I'm not sure if subforums for each separate race are needed. I'd think more of a compromise could be made:

'General' WAR subforum.
'Forces of Order' subforum.
'Forces of Destruction' subforum.

Then build on after that if needed. After all, there may only be 2 Dwarf players on LO and 4 High Elves and 1 Empire... etc. We have no idea how many players there will be, nor do we have any idea how many per race or how many will stick with the game.



 
#18 ·
Right we definitely want to show we are taking the game seriously. I have others who will get involved that don't play the tabletop anymore but are still in love with the warhammer universe and will be playing WAR. I never really took it from the perspective of the long time tabletop players exploring their first MMO, but we might be able to generate a buzz. One subforum could be dedicated to walthroughs and getting started not for people new to the world but new to the MMO genre.
 
#21 · (Edited)
I don't think the new forum is laid out very well at the moment.

For one thing, it shouldn't just be called "WAR" even without periods. Maybe something more appropriate: "Warhammer Online." I also think that until the forums generate more traffic, we should keep out of the subforum-per-army area and just have two subforums, one dedicated to Order (called "Forces of Order") and the other dedicated to Destruction ("Forces of Destruction"). Then we have th emain W.A.R. forum which those two subforums are located in for any and all general talk about the game.

So it'll look like this:

> Warhammer Online
>> Forces of Order
>> Forces of Destruction

And eventually, we can build it up.

I think a separate forum for it altogether isn't a horrible idea. It would be a small section, but would make it one, more pleasing to the eye, two, easier to access, and three, leaves plenty of room for development.

Here's an example of what it could look like when built up:

> Warhammer Online
>> Forces of Order
>>> Dwarfs
>>> Empire
>>> High Elves
>> Forces of Destruction
>>> Chaos
>>> Dark Elves
>>> Greenskins
>> Guilds
>> Walkthroughs

etc. etc.



 
#22 ·
Perhaps there might be some way to gauge interest in Warhammer Online amongst our user base? Maybe through a poll, e-mail, announcement or some such? I know I'm already planning to purchase WAR when it's released. I'm thinking you could get a feel for the scale of this thing ahead of time based on current LO members, which would help you plan accordingly.

Just a thought =).

-H
 
#23 ·
I agree with LN. Warhammer Online would be better.

I also agree than Forces of Good and Destruction as two forums would be good.

We should also be open to revisiting the needs for subforums as gamers play WAR. We might end up with a tactics section if we're seeing lots of tactic posts, for example.

I like LN's ideas and then allowing ourselves the flexibility to revisit the sub-forums as the game grows.



 
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