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#1 ·
toying around with a CSM army, and came up with this. C&C is appreciated.

HQ: Chaos Sorceror (200 Pts)
Bolt of Change; Jump Pack; Warptime; Mark of Tzeentch

Troops: Chaos Space Marines (250 Pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines
Flamer; Melta; Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion w/ Power Fist;
Rhino
Chaos Space Marines (250 Pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines
Flamer ; Melta; Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion w/ Power Fist;
Rhino
Chaos Space Marines (250 Pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines
Flamer ; Melta; Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion w/ Power Fist;
Rhino

Heavy Support: Predator (140 Pts)
Twin Linked Lascannon; Havoc Launcher; Daemonic Possession

Elite: Terminators (185 Pts)
4 Terminators
Power Weapon (x4); Combi-melta (x2);
Terminator Champion
Power Fist; Combi-melta
Heavy Support: Obliterators x3 (225 Pts)

Total Roster Cost: 1500
 
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#2 ·
Over all I think it looks good but I have a few thoughts to share.

Sorceror: Solid build but how do you intend to play it? I see no raptors which mean he'll be alone. You could keep him in cover I guess and use the jump pack mostly as a means to move around quickly to get in the Bolt of Change where it hurts. If you intend to get him in hand-to-hand, you might want to consider adding some raptors.
I myself like the sorceror, but I mostly play against Witch Hunters which have a nasty save against psychic powers so I tend not to use it. I might add one when he starts taking IG complements to his army and turn random IG soldiers to spawns with Gift of Chaos. :D

Troops: I am myself considering this unit build and I'd love to know how the flamer melta combo works out. Most people seem to favor the 2 melta or 2 flamers though. I just don't know really, I'm awaiting my magnets so I can start trying out which works best myself.

Predator: I'm not sure about your intensions for the Havoc Launcher. The tl lascannon and daemonic possession should work well together though. Also a build I've considered. (minus the daemonic possession though but I might give that a try as well.)

Terminators: Looking good. It seems like the Heavy Flamer is very popular. Just for consideration.

Obliterators: Nothing to say here. Looks good. :)
 
#3 ·
The havok was to get me up to an even 1500. without it I was at 1485, not sure what else to use in its place. I guess i could drop the havok, add a heavy flamer and another combi melta to the termies, which would leave me 5 points for possibly a TL bolter on the pred?
As for the sorceror, not sure how he'll play out. I just thought it would be fun to use a different HQ than the semi-standard Lord...
 
#4 · (Edited)
I agree with Mechatius.

HQ: I think your sorceror is far to expensive for what he does. Get a daemon prince with similar powers if you intend to use him alone.

Troops: Yes move the special weapons into identical pairs. Your rhinos mean you have plenty of manouverability to send the appropiate squad to dissembark near the appropiate target. Another option would be for all squads with meltas then give the rhino or champions a combi flamer. It would cost a little more but I don't think I have ever had a model fire a flamer more than once per game.

Heavy: If you like possession swap the pred for a vindicator. I would keep the pred but armed with AC and 2LC with no other upgrades. Move the havoc launcher to a rhino if you really like them. Oblits are good.

Elites: I think you have the melta gun thing pritty well covered elsewhere in the list so I would be tempted for 4 combi plasmas and a heavy flamer on the champ. Chain fist instead of PF if you have a few ppoints left at the end as it really deters dreads & defilers.
 
#5 ·
thanks for the advice so far.

With some tweaking i came up with this. (the load outs on the CSM squads can be juggled as needed.. should i make 1 squad 2x flamer, AC with heavy flamer and Rhino with combi flamer? it would be putting all the eggs in one basket so to speak)

HQ:
Daemon Prince (200 Pts)
Wings; Bolt of Change; Mark of Tzeentch; Warptime
Elite:
Terminators (190 Pts)
4 Terminators- Combi-plasma (x2)
Terminator Champion-Chain Fist; Heavy Flamer

Troops:
Chaos Space Marines (265 Pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines- Meltagun (x2); Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion- Power Fist
Rhino- Combi-flamer
Chaos Space Marines (245 Pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines- Flamer (x2);Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion- Power Fist
Rhino
Chaos Space Marines (255 Pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines- Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion- Power Fist; Combi-flamer
Rhino

Heavy Support:
Predator (130 Pts)- Autocannon; 2 x Lascannon Sponsons
3 Obliterators (225 Pts)

Total Roster Cost: 1500
 
#6 ·
I would drop bolt of change from the prince for doombilt to save points then put special weapons back in all the troop squads. combiflamers on rhinos are a nice to have but max out the meltas/flamers in the squads first. Suggest 4-6 meltas and 2 or 0 flamers.

In the terminators drop the champion upgrade for 2 more combi plasmas.
 
#7 · (Edited)
Couldn't have said it better myself. I'd also look at dropping a couple of obliterators (Or, if you can find the points elsewhere, maybe drop a terminator and an obliterator) for another predator, heavy vehicles like that work best in pairs, otherwise they get picked off quickly.
Here is a tweaked list that I would personally use, if it were my army, I tried to keep as close to your original lsit as possible.

HQ:
Daemon Prince (185 Pts)
Wings; Doombolt; Mark of Tzeentch; Warptime
-As suggested, dropped BoC to doombolt, if you had the points I would have said Wind of Chaos would have been great on this guy, but it would bump his points up VERY high.
Elite:
Terminators (150 Pts)
3 Terminators- Combi-plasma (x3)
Terminator- Power Fist; Heavy Flamer
-Dropped one terminator and the champion upgrade (Along with an obliterator) to afford a second predator, Also dropped the chainfist down to a powerfist and used those points to give the last terminator a combi-plasma aswell.

Troops:
Chaos Space Marines (255 Pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines- Meltagun (x2); Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion- Power Fist
Rhino-
Chaos Space Marines (245 Pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines- Flamer (x2); Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion- Power Fist
Rhino
Chaos Space Marines (255 Pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines- Meltagun (x2); Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion- Power Fist;
Rhino
-Dropped the combi-flamer on the rhino in the first squad, and the combi-flamer on the champion in the third to afford dual melta-guns in the third. You COULD droped the dual melta guns down to flamers in one squad, and buy back that combi-flamer, but I would say the melta are much more effective, and for units that are weak against the flamers (Orks, etc) then bolters work very well anyway.

Heavy Support:
Predator (130 Pts)- Autocannon; 2 x Lascannon Sponsons
Predator (130 Pts)- Autocannon; 2 x Lascannon Sponsons
2 Obliterators (150 Pts)
-Added another Predator, for reasons I previously mentioned. I had to drop an obliterator to do this, but 3 in a single squad is usually overkill anyway.

Total Roster Cost: 1500

As I said, these are just my opinions, and what I would do if I wa uisng the army. Take them as you will.


Good luck with your army.

~Rippy~
 
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#8 · (Edited)
thanks again.

2 CSM squads w/ 2x Melta AC w/ Combi flamer in rhino
1 CSM squad w/ 2x Flamer, AC w/ Combi flamer in rhino

5 termies w/ 4 Combi plas, 1 heavy flamer (sniff no chainfist)

DP as you suggested,

everything else the same brigns me to 1500 even.

now to find some money to start!

hmm Riptor's post snuck in. (these comments were to Mad Cat's suggestion)
hmm all things to consider...
 
#9 · (Edited)
Another thing to consider is dropping the predator completely, giving you 100 points (After giving the squad two melta guns) to play around with. You could drop the combi flamers, and give the terminators all combi plasmas (Other than the champion), and then replicate that squad again by dropping the DP to how Madcat suggested.

HQ:
Daemon Prince (185 Pts)
Wings; Doombolt; Mark of Tzeentch; Warptime

Elite:
Terminators (165 Pts)
3 Terminators- Combi-plasma (x3)
Terminator Champion- Chainfist; Heavy Flamer

Terminators (165 Pts)
3 Terminators- Combi-plasma (x3)
Terminator Champion- Chainfist; Heavy Flamer

Troops:
Chaos Space Marines (255 Pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines- Meltagun (x2); Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion- Power Fist;
Rhino
Chaos Space Marines (245 Pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines- Flamer (x2); Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion- Power Fist;
Rhino
Chaos Space Marines (255 Pts)
9 Chaos Space Marines- Meltagun (x2); Chaos Glory
Aspiring Champion- Power Fist;
Rhino

Heavy Support:
Obliterator (75 Pts)
Obliterator (75 Pts)
Obliterator (75 Pts)

Total Roster Cost: 1,495
 
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