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Cheap way to have near-immunity to deep strikers!

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#1 ·
BoxAnt brought up a great idea in another thread.. Taking an Inquisitor Lord HQ (in addition to your regular IG HQ if you wish) as an anti-deep striking unit.

Inquisitor Lord with 2 mystics and 1 familiar (last henchman can be whatever you want). 63 points.

You know what the mystics do? If you have 2 or more of them they allow any unit within 12 inches to immediately take a free shot at a deep striking enemy that's within 4d6 inches of the inquisitor. Also they **** up all daemons in some way but who cares. Basically park this unit behind an Executioner and you have a huge radius of deep striking immunity. As soon as something lands, blow it to hell with plasma cannons/what have you. It removes what many see as Guard's big weakness (drop pods and deep strikers behind their tanks in general).

Also thinking of giving it a psychic hood for general board-wide psychic protection. How much does a psychic hood cost in points? I can't find it for the life of me. And it doesn't mention a range. Is it board-wide? And you get to use it every time the enemy tries to use a power?

In any case, not bad for 63 points... 3W 3+ save. Not that easy to take out, especially since it'll be hiding behind tanks and you can't deep strike it. And you can still take your regular IG HQ in addition, seeing as how guard allows 1-2 HQs.

Also opens up options to field the special assassins! VINDICAAARREEE! Or maybe Callidus along with Marbo to completely **** up somebody from within their own ranks. Brother and sister assassins!
 
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#2 ·
That idea has been around quite a while you know...

But nevertheless, I think you are right in exploring some options with Mystic fun.

I think it is just cheaper to take a normal Inquisitor with Mystics and Pys Hood and stick them in a bunker Chimera. This gives you significant tactical disruption against Daemons, Eldar(damn psykers) and those nasty nasty Drop Pod marines. BTW, this tactic works just as well with an LRBT with Plasma Cannons (and a fair bit cheaper too).

P,S Posting points costs for items is not allowed on LO - its in the DH armoury, trust me.
 
#3 ·
You're right. Using a regular Inquisitor would shave off over 30 points for the same effect. Though no options to use special assassins.

A psychic hooded, double mystic'd inquisitor runs under 50 points! I'd say that's very impressive for the great protection it provides. Combats lash as well.

Would you recommend taking the bare bones or kiting it out into something useful?
 
#4 ·
Couple of things to note:

1) Your Inq will average about 12" in spotting a Deep Striking unit. You put him behind a tank and it's about 6" only - not very good at all. You need to put him as far front as possible to threaten as many DS'ers as possible. Best thing is the keep him protected in a Chimera side-by-side right next to a tank (or sandwiched between 2 tanks).

2) Don't get a psychic hood only unless it's for an Inq Lord, not for a regular Inq. There's a big difference between their Leaderships.

3) For Space Marine drop pods, they normally DS very close to your units. You have to be careful with your Ord. weapons as their shots can very easily scatter onto your own units.

4) If you're playing against daemons, you might want to consider giving him a psycannon. They ignore the daemon's invulnerable saves and makes him a little useful.
 
#14 ·
Best thing is the keep him protected in a Chimera
Or a landraider :)
Don't forget that putting the inq in a vehicle means that you measure from the hull, plus an average of around 14" on 4d6 can give you a 30" diameter 'exclusion zone' per inquisitor.

Inq retinues can be geared up as a fairly decent shooty force themsevles with BS 4 plasma cannons and plasma guns, and can grab up the practically free auspex to scare off the infiltrators.


2) Don't get a psychic hood only unless it's for an Inq Lord, not for a regular Inq. There's a big difference between their Leaderships.
Elite DH inquisitors can take Hierophant followers to buff their leadership score up to 10 pretty cheaply, so psy hoods all round.
 
#5 ·
The difference in their leaderships is 2. Substantial, sure. But I don't know if it's enough to throw away board-wide psychic protection. Gives a 25% chance to cancel any psychic power from an LD10 caster.

Well.. how many armies actually use psychic powers?
 
#6 · (Edited)
Yes the DH psychic hood has unlimited range, look in the DH wargear section for firther details. The list is in alphibetical order so shouldn't be too hard to find ;)

Also, as jy2 has said in the past, give him the Emperors tarot. A snip points wise to give a better chance of having first turn.

PL
 
#7 ·
Wait a second.. What am I missing here?.. Emperor's Tarot doesn't help you go first AT ALL. It gives +1 to "who goes first" rolls if the two dice are different and -1 if they're the same. If they're different it means either you already won or the enemy got a significantly higher number (tarot won't help) or they got 1 higher, in which case tarot kicks in and gives you even. You reroll. Yes?

If you get the same number on the dice, normally you'd reroll but now you take -1 and lose.

If you already won or the enemy won by a lot, tarot wouldn't have helped anyway. Disregard those situations. The only situations the tarot works are losing by 1 or striking even. One makes you reroll for a second chance instead of losing. One makes you lose instead of rolling for second chance.

Outcome? NO DIFFERENCE
 
#8 ·
The chances of both die coming up the same is 1/6.
The chances of both die coming up different is 5/6.
Thus you would have a 5/6 chance of getting +1 on the initiative/deployment roll.
BTW, the roll for the Emperor's Tarot and the roll for deployment are not the same rolls. You roll for the Emperor's Tarot before you roll for deployment.
 
#12 ·
Amusingly we used this in a recent apocalpyse match... with the Inquisitor in my Stormlord!

It was especially amusing when the Chaos player put down half a dozen squads of Chaos Terminators around my tank :D On average, each squad was reduced from 5 to 2 models, although only one squad got completely wiped out.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Well I don't think you could in an IG army. Not for a total of 3 HQ choices anyway. Do Daemonhunter allies count against the IG FOC? IG allows 1-2 HQ choices. Would an Inquisitor lord count as one of those?

Even so, you could easily take an Inq lord and a regular Inq.. Or just 2 regular Inqs (64 points) if you're really that paranoid about deep strikers. If something deep strikes within the range of both your Inquisitors, could you designate the same unit to shoot twice at it?
 
#18 ·
Well I don't think you could in an IG army. Not for a total of 3 HQ choices anyway. Do Daemonhunter allies count against the IG FOC? IG allows 1-2 HQ choices. Would an Inquisitor lord count as one of those?
Yes it would.

Even so, you could easily take an Inq lord and a regular Inq.. Or just 2 regular Inqs (64 points) if you're really that paranoid about deep strikers. If something deep strikes within the range of both your Inquisitors, could you designate the same unit to shoot twice at it?
I don't see why not? You can designate the same unit to shoot 10x per Inq if there were 10 DS units within range.

I still prefer the nasty Dakka That the Inq. Lord w/psycannon and shooty retinue can put out. Re-rolling plasma cannons on DeepStriking Termies is such a fun thing.

I suppose for IG tastes, it's a little expensive at around 222pt with a hood, 2Hbolters, plas cannon, 2 sage, 2mystics.... but it's almost like having a 50% nullification of psykers. It's nice.
Get a LR Executioner w/5 plasma cannons and put the Inq next to it. Want more? Get a squad of Executioners. Nasty.
 
#17 ·
I still prefer the nasty Dakka That the Inq. Lord w/psycannon and shooty retinue can put out. Re-rolling plasma cannons on DeepStriking Termies is such a fun thing.

I suppose for IG tastes, it's a little expensive at around 222pt with a hood, 2Hbolters, plas cannon, 2 sage, 2mystics.... but it's almost like having a 50% nullification of psykers. It's nice.
 
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