Sternguards in a Land Raider is a cool idea, but it's a waste of the Land Raider's assault capabilities. It'll get them there safer for sure, so it's really up to how you're planning on playing this combo.
Multimeltas on infantry is quite hard to use. It's short range compared to Lascannons and Missile Launchers, and it's dedicated anti-tank. Consider swapping it with another heavy weapon.
For your Land Speeders, make sure they're not in a squadron. As you have chosen the path of flexibility instead of redundancy for your weapons configuration, they should be allowed to move independently to maximize their function. Also don't forget that Land Speeders are useful for contesting at the last minute.
Sternguards in a Land Raider is a cool idea, but it's a waste of the Land Raider's assault capabilities. It'll get them there safer for sure, so it's really up to how you're planning on playing this combo.
It's also the only transport that can take Lysander, which is why I guess Reeses went for the option.
It's a solid list, and it'll certainly do well against Lashprince and Doom/Mindseer armies. I don't think you need 3 Tactical Squads at 1500 points though, have you considered swapping one for a shotgun scout squad in Land Speeder Storm? The 100 points you save will get you a predator or whirlwind for extra heavy support.
If you're going to run your tactical squads, or combat squads, behind the Land raider I'd consider trying to get some power weapons/powerfists for your sergeants. Also, I agree with Firaya, spread your Land speeders amongst the Fast attack slots.
Lysander and the sterngaurds are going to be in the LR so they can destroy face
Land Speeders are going to be spread out
ya i could kick a tac squad out for some scouts and then trick the sargents out and get a HS choice i didnt want to get a HS because i didnt want something in the back shooting. I guess i could put in a vindicator
hmmm. Scouts in a land speeder ive played against a squad of those things before... easiest 2 kill points of my life but i could see how effective they could be (not with a BS3... Damn you GW make my WS 4 and BS 4 again!)
Im just wondering a what would be better a ten man infiktrating scout squad or a 5 scout + speeder
The 5 man squad with the Storm isn't too bad of an idea. The Land speeder is open-topped and can be armed with heavy flamer or MM. After it moves the Scouts can pop out and assault something. Shotguns on the squad and a sergeant with a combi-weapon and melta bombs could then roast a vehicle or tie up a Devastator squad, for instance, so they can't fire that turn.
I would have to say not go with the scouts, in my experience they are almosy useless, getting close enough to assault a dev squad is going to be quite difficult since they are using 10 armour veicles and the devastators are located in the back of the opposing army, Also they might not even tie the devasators up, the devs could win combat first turn with superior combat ability, they simply have better armour saves an hit the scouts pretty easy, i once had a devatator squad take out a broodlord in cc, they may be heavy weapons specialist but no slouches in cc against newbie scouts. 3 space marines can easilt take down a 5 man cc scout squad as long as they seargent doesn't have a power weapon!!
Scouts + LS-S = Massive objective claiming range. Sure they'll get massacred by full Marines but if you charge them against full Marines you're doing it wrong! Also, give the sergeant a powerfist, and you've a 20" assault move that'll kill a tank.
yeah thats what im thinking. Ill try a scout squad in a HF armed speeder see how that works. the whatever assault launchers on it makes it pretty useful
I'm torn, I can't decide if I like the flexibility of your Land Speeders (move 12", fire the appropriate guns), or think you should make them specialist vehicles.
I do like the list, but I'm wondering if it'd be better to somehow fit a Vindicator in there. A Land Raider (with Lysander no less!) and a Vindicator coming at your face really makes opponents twitchy. :sinister:
you have a point there maybe a vindicator and two landspeeders would be much more trouble some but the biggest thing is the points the list shown here is exactly 1.5k it would take a whole lot of tweaking unless i took a Land speeder and two sterngaurds... hmmm what do you guys think?
so i guess you would like the stern and the speeder to stay. Not much input on the matter buddy. Anyway i was wondering are scouts in a Land speeder storm allowed to outflank?
the land speeder storm itsself has the scouts rule under its codex entry so i would assume that it would be entirely legal to outflank.
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just noticed, in that list there you have 4 fast attack slots taken up. unless im silly and missed something
ya but the big question is it a "dedicated transport" i assume so but i want to know for sure because if it can ill probably definetly run 2 land speeders and a vindicator
well you just declare that your scouts are embarking on the lannd speeder and roll for both units as one, thats how they do it at my local GW store anyhow.
i think an faq has been released about thins, but im 100% positive you can do it
Land Raider TwLin Lascannons, Multi Melta
Lysander
6x sterngaurds
Tac squad: rhino, sergeant with pwrfist, melta gun, rocko launcher
Tac squad: rhino, sergeant with pwrfist, melta gun, rocko launcher
Land speeder Storm- heavy flamer (flammen wurfer!!) Scout squad sarge with powerfist
Land speeder Multi melta and Heavy flamer
Land speeder Multi melta and Heavy flamer
Vindicator
= 1500
a problem i have run into is that i was thinking about giving the sterns some combi plasmas for other terminator squad and Monsters Creatures should i try to give the sterns some combis? or leave them that way because with Lysander my plan was to shoot with the sterns then fighting off the counter with Lysander. I dont know its a difficult decision any ideas
Nice list. I think it should do pretty well. Let us know how it works for you! :dance:
Honestly, I like combi-weapons a lot and I always try to get 2-4 in my squad. Personally, I use combi-meltas over plasmas for the AT, but I can see where the plasmas would come in handy.
yeah i was thinking about that using combi melta but when you travel in a LR with lascannons and a MM as well you know Lysander the boss with a str 10 +1 on vehicle damage chart have more melta would be overkill unless your going against killa kanz
I have a new problem concerning my list i've come up with a new one that i think is better
Alright sweet then heres the most recent version
Land Raider TwLin Lascannons, Multi Melta
Vulkan Hestan 5x assault terminators with hammers and sarge with two pairs of lightning claws
Tac squad: rhino, dozer blade, sergeant with pwrfist, melta gun, rocko launcher
Land speeder Storm- heavy flamer (flammen wurfer!!) Scout squad sarge with powerfist
Land speeder Multi melta and Heavy flamer
Land speeder Multi melta and Heavy flamer
Land speeder Multi melta and Heavy flamer
= 1500
I realized since i have so many heavy flamers and meltas in my list why dont i make the whole entire army effective then just a part of it... Any Suggestion?
The only thing off-hand I'd change would be to remove the dozer blades and give one of your sergeants a combi-melta or comb-flamer. I only say this because I've never found a great need for dozer blades. On the other hand, you never know when they could come in handy! :soldier:
You could always merge two of the speeders into the same squadron. It has it's risks, but no shaken or stunned does help make the points back sometimes.
hmmmm your right that is a shame but now at least i dont need to get another on so that means i have 80 points to spare any suggestions?
Land Raider TwLin Lascannons, Multi Melta
Vulkan Hestan 5x assault terminators with hammers and sarge with two pairs of lightning claws
Tac squad: rhino, dozer blade, sergeant with pwrfist, melta gun, rocko launcher
Land speeder Storm- heavy flamer (flammen wurfer!!) Scout squad sarge with powerfist
Land speeder Multi melta and Heavy flamer
Land speeder Multi melta and Heavy flamer
70 points left?
I was thinking of trying to add a chaplain with pwrfist but i dont what i should take out. Hestan and the terminators take up alot but i really want to hestan to make my army more effective any suggestion for terminaotr replacements?
If you drop the dozer blades you could buy a Dakka Predator or a Whirlwind.
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