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Whats going to happen?

  • The Imperium saves the day and takes control of the galaxy!

    Votes: 28 16.0%
  • Chaos breaks through the warp and the galaxy is consumed by the power of the chaos gods!

    Votes: 13 7.4%
  • The Necrons arrise under the leadership of their star gods and re-rake what was once theirs!

    Votes: 18 10.3%
  • The Eldar somehow overcome all odds!

    Votes: 6 3.4%
  • The Tyranids eat the galaxy alive!

    Votes: 41 23.4%
  • The Greater good prevails!

    Votes: 8 4.6%
  • The dark eldar enslave the entire population and take control!

    Votes: 3 1.7%
  • The orks get together a HUGE wwwwaaarrrrggghhh and overcome the galaxy!

    Votes: 17 9.7%
  • Peace? (lol)

    Votes: 5 2.9%
  • EVERYTHING DIES!

    Votes: 36 20.6%

How is it all going to end?

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#1 · (Edited)
I haven't seen one of these topics in ages. IF we were to write the rest of the stuff that happens after 40k, what would eventually happen?

My money is with the necrons. They have the only gods left that actually are free to roam around the galaxy. When the void dragon breaks free and takes control of the titan legions of mars this could also cause some bloody huge problems. (yes, a lot of that is serious speculation)
 
#2 ·
I am not an expert on 40K fluff, but I know enough to say this;

The main Tyranid forces arrive and the entire galaxy goes the way of the squat: eaten.
Then they'll return in a few million years and eat all the regrown life.

Either that, or the emperor awakes / dies and reincarnates, and smacks butt untill every enemy packs up and get's out.

Nice and simple :) Tyranids eating everybody seems the most likely event, as the other races won't be able to keep up the rate of attrition.
 
#3 ·
The Golden Throne is failing. (The house keeper unplugged it, and the Mechanicus can't find the plug socket) So the Emperor is going to die, either from lack of life support of Cypher stabbing him with the Lion's sword, or by some other means, but he is going to die. Now, he may just die, or he may become some kind of uber hardcore Warp God and bitch-slap all four chaos gods five ways from Sunday. The Warp Gate he was keeping closed while he was on the Golden Throne opens and Terra gets flooded by Daemons. At the same time, the Astronomicon goes out. *Blip.* No more warp travel for anybody. The Eldar die out, the Tau get munched by the 'nids and it all boils down to massive assault phase between 'nids and orks, with the dark eldar watching, thinking "Just as we get a new codex, everything goes to sh*t..."

That's my take on the situation :D
 
#4 ·
Hm. Logically, it's going to come down to Necrons vs Nids. Necrons handle the Chaos threat, Nids eat everything else, and the galaxy is left an empty wreck aside from unpalatable robots.

Trying to think GW would manage it, though, so they can keep their franchise going...

Someone has to get to Terra. I don't know who would be the one to break through - Nids, maybe? The Imperial Palace is destroyed, the Emperor's body perishes with it, and as mentioned the Daemons come out to play on Terra, maybe even fighting off the Nids.

If we assume whatever Necron god is supposedly hiding on Mars is actually there, I'd wager it would be about that time that it wakes up, and joins in the fun. Perhaps the forces of Chaos are driven back with the Necrons taking over Sol Sector.

Somewhere, the Emperor re-manifests as a god - within the Eye of Terror? Or on Cadia? And there is great rejoicing, and a massive assault led by the god-emperor into the Eye of Terror itself, to neutralise the Chaos threat once and for all!

Maybe they'll even manage to shut the Eye of Terror, meaning they can turn their efforts to reclaiming Terra. So, another big crusade, against the Nids and Necrons and Chaos forces who are generally running riot around Terra and the surrounding systems.

So effectively the same as it used to be, except things have changed places a bit. And you can now buy the Emperor for Apocalypse formations. :p
 
#5 ·
I'm going to say that necrons put a big flaw in both tyranids and daemons with the pariah gene. If they can manipulate it to that it actually kills things with a connection to the warp they may the the only thing that can stop nids and daemons.

I think crons will be the ones who get to terra. I think it will be to do with the void dragon waking up and using mars as a base to attack from.

@Deadstar: I would hope we get more than just the emperor! I would want the void dragon, the chaos gods (assuming epic uber-battle between them and emperor) and a physical representation of the hive mind.
 
#7 ·
My ideal timeline:

0 - The Golden Throne fails, and the Emperor dies. Daemons pour through the webway gate, followed by almost every craftworld eldar (if the Imperium falls, the galaxy follows). With the eldar help, terra is secured.
1 - An Eldar psyker sits on the golden throne, sealing the rift. Without the astronomicon, long distance warp travel for humanity is impossible and the defenses start to crumble.
5 - Abaddon launches the 14/15th* and final black crusade, sweeping all defenses at the cadian gate away like chaff. He then pushes in towards galactic centre. The orks and DE also take advantage.
10 - The Void Dragon awakes, the Mechanicum becomes it's slaves.
11 - The rest of the necrons awaken and move to the galactic north to combat the flood of chaos energy. The nids arrive.
25 - 90% of the imperium has fallen, with only the major planets left - and under siege.
30 - Galactic east falls silent. The end of the Tau as a major player, and the Ultramarines fall back on battle barges as Ultramar is destroyed to keep it's biomass from the nids. Thus begins the habit of virus-bombing all planets in their path.
40 - Almost all non-Astartes homeworlds are reduced to rubble, the last eldar craftworld falls to slannesh
50 - Humanity becomes united in desperation, and those that don't fall to chaos prepare to face their end.
60 - 9 months after the last colonised world falls, a child is born on earth with incredible psychic potential. All tyranids within X distance of Terra stop responding to the hive mind, leaving a small bubble of safety (from one enemy at least).
62 - The Emperor, now fully grown, allies with the few surviving Eldar. The Primarch II project begins, and the Void Dragon is enslaved once again. Mars is found to be devoid of all life. Rapid fleet construction begins at the Jupiter dockyards, based on a combination of human and eldar technology. Thanks to the eldar portion, human ships no longer need to travel through the warp as they have access to the webway proper.
65 - The 2nd Great Crusade begins. The Emperor, with his knowledge of the past heresy and the help of the eldar, no longer needs to research his own webway - and thus can concentrate on leading his sons. which the Emperor decides to trust with the knowledge of the Great Enemy he denied them before.
95 - The tide is turned, and Abaddon is sent crying back to the Eye of Terror. Humanity faces a long period of rebuilding, and is down to a mere 30 billion souls.

* I can't remember where he's up to off the top of my head
 
#8 ·
Turns out hive fleet leviathan and the rest were just scouts. The real tyranid fleet has around as many hive fleets as there are eldar. Whole galaxy consumed. Necrons left alone. They sit it out because nids are eating faster then they can and wait for new life *like with the enslavers*.
 
#9 ·
You are all forgetting GW control the background; Hence, Guilliman makes a full recovery and leaves his stasis chamber on Macragge to bitch slap every god, alien and traitor in the galaxy, assisted by Calgar and the rest of Ultramarines. All other chapters proclaim Guilliman the new Emperor, and a new dawn of mankind begins. GW invent a new board game, where fantastically painted plastic space marines roll dice to see who gets to kiss Guillimans bottom first.
 
#10 ·
... damn... that just... damn

DAMN YOU MATT WARD!!

GW take notes from the Wardian Heresy... your Horus heresy is small compared to ... this.
 
#11 ·
RealityCheque's idea would be really cool. It might turn some of the fluff onto its head, but the story line would still be absolutely awesome.
Ultimately though, I'm casting my lot with the Orks. Yep, Orks.
Nids, while they're certainly numerous and quite lethal, don't come back quite like the Orks do. Orks are a fungus, and whenever one of them dies in battle, he releases hundreds upon hundreds of spores. Not all of them reach maturity, but those that do will present a fighting Ork within a matter of days or a week or two (can't remember their exact fluff). Now, they might be "Savage Orks", without the almighty Dakka or too much technology, but if a Mek is born, he'll stick together whatever he can get his hands on. The result is that as soon as the Nids hit a planet with Orks on it, they're going to be in for a long, long fight. And Orks don't usually surrender.

Necrons are cool and all, but they won't wake up in the middle of a Tyranid invasion. Their gods will feed off the fear caused by the Nid tidal wave, and if they were to wake up their warriors, they would either be eaten by nids, or awaken to find that hey- there's not too much left out there to enslave. So I think Crons would save their breath.

Eldar would retreat to the webway, atleast while the Nids are around. That means that there would be a huge battle between the unified Craftworlds and the Dark Eldar. Now, if the Dark Eldar are anything like Dark Elves, they'll just waste the entire webway out of maliciousness, and not really care who dies- as long as lots and lots of Eldar kick the bucket too. Even if just one of the Eldar factions were to "win", they would probably die a slow death in exile in their Webway.

Without humans to create emotion, and the Eldar all but gone, Chaos pretty much fizzles out. The Warp still exists, but the Daemons and Chaos Gods are gone. Chaos Marines (who stayed in the warp and didn't run out to be eaten by nids) will be safe, almost as safe as the Eldar in the Webway infact, as I doubt that the Nids would really bother with the Warp. The Warp in general would become a safe-haven, which surviving humans might try to get through but hey: if they're alive, the Chaos Gods are alive too...

If GW really wanted to keep it's fluff moving, they'd likely handle it all like this:

1. Nid main fleet appears, bringing wrack and ruin to the world. The Tau are annihilated, and Calgar packs up his chapter and Guilliman and GTFOs for the galactic center.
2. Eldar, seeing what's going on, retreat to the Webway and duke it out with their kin. The winner here does matter, as they'll likely never leave the webway again until the Big Gribblies are gone.
3. Nid fleet begins hitting Ork infested areas. The Orks realize that this is the greatest battle of all time, and rally together in a massive, unified Waagh! Nids are pretty well halted in this area, and splinter fleets (still huge of course) start roaming the galaxy.
4. Mankind suffers terribly, and perhaps even the Emperor meets his end. Now- we're assuming that he doesn't ressurrect in the warp and beat the ever-loving **** out of the chaos gods, because that would annihilate an entire faction... so instead, Mankind covers the whole thing up, but now has no real leadership.
5. With the Emperor out of the way, but mankind threatened by extinction, the Chaos Gods decide that they should probably do something about all the Big Gribblies running amok in the galaxy, so for a brief period, you see a relative "truce" between Chaos and the Imperium, as they both begin fighting to save humanity. This might even bring some of the excommunicated chapters back into the fold (Deathguard).
6. After Chaos and the remaining Imperium have kicked back the Nids, Guilliman realizes that much of Mankind has claimed Chaos as their saviours. This sparks a fresh crusade, with Guilliman declared somewhat like the Pope for the Emperor (who is of course secretly dead).

7. Now the fluff is back to normal- the Eldar are making small raids out of the Webway, the Orks have banded together in one area but quickly dissolve. The Tau are well... their a mistake anyways. Chaos and the Imperium are at it again, Nids are roaming around in splinter-fleets, and Necrons are stretching and yawning and preparing to start the whole thing over again, except with Everybody vs. the Necrons.
 
#12 ·
I think what were all forgetting was how insanely powerful necrons used to be before they went into hiding. They can definitely escape worse case scenario (limitless speed with inertialess drive) and with the help of the c'tan they were fighting the old ones and winning! I recon they'll all jump ship and then turn up later after the nids have consumed most of the galaxy and then just blow the **** out of the nids. At full strength a c'tan could take a whole hive fleet by himself. And when he has a never ending force of powerful warriors that are repaired and returned to battle in a matter of minuets I think he'd give the nids a hell of a time. The emperor dying and being re-born is nice but unlikely. I'm not exactly sure but wasn't he created when all of terras most powerful psykers (or shamans as they were called then) united together into one all powerful being?
 
#14 ·
The emperor dying and being re-born is nice but unlikely. I'm not exactly sure but wasn't he created when all of terras most powerful psykers (or shamans as they were called then) united together into one all powerful being?
They did this by committing suicide as one, then their souls merged to become the Emperor. Once he dies, his soul would be reborn again.
 
#13 · (Edited)
I put everything dies but thats not strictly true. It all depends on a few factors:

Necron Victory: VD awakes before anything else happens/ Necrons manage to seal the warp of from the material realm (eldar and possibly orks weapons stop working, warp travel stops existing etc.)
Nid Victory: They can never beat the necrons but if somehow the C'tan were take out and then the necrons destroyed (say a new god comes and kills them all), the nids would of course kill everything if their whole fleet arrived
Imperium Victory: a). Emperor comes back
b). As hinted at, if the human race evolved into a race of pyskers they'd have the power of the Eldar without the heightened emotions to cause another fall (so same awesomeness, less kinkiness). This much pyschicness would own everything (why use the Emperor when you can just use 15000 worse pyskers (sanctioned pyskers would do -15000 to leadership for example if that doesn't fry your brain then what does?)
Tau Victory Lol, ye no. (unless they mutate and grow to about 1000 times bigger etc.)
Eldar VIctory: They'll never win but they'll pretty much always survive as they can hide in the webway from galaxy threatening threats. Necron takeover might seal them there though.
Dark Eldar Victory: See Eldar
Chaos: The opposite of the necrons, the warp interlaps with the material universe and kills everything. However, if this happened after the human race's transmutation into pyskers then the human race would become almost infinitely powerful (until the Enslavers arrived)
Ork Victory The resulting Waagh battle cry caused by the orks unification would shatter all matter in the galaxy and in a couple of others.
 
#19 ·
And then what? The crons are left all alone in an empty galaxy with nothing to hate and kill... they become completley pointless, the only beings that "win" in that senario are the C'tan, the actual crons themselves would have no purpose and get shelved.

In my mind at least, the necrons can never be the last man standing, as they have absolutly nothing to do afterwards. Chaos can flood the galaxy with warp and party, eldar, humans and (lets be fair here) Tau could all populate worlds in a vast empire, Orks wouldnt give a damn and would carry on regardless fighting different galactic tribes of other orks and the Nids just get hungry and move onto the next galaxy in line.

My personal opinion, it would be a huge threeway fight between the orks, nids and crons, on account that all of them have a collosal amount of threat if they bring their full might to bear. Nobody wins and the combat spralls all over the galaxy for all time, as the numbers just dont get depleted (ork reproduction, tyranid biomass creation and necron repair.)
 
#18 ·
I completely agree with "Captain Sarathai", the orks are going to put a great fight. "Should the Orks ever truly unit, they would crush all opposition" this is from the most recent Ork codex page 4.

I believe Orks inhabit lot of outer reach planets, maybe only a couple of hunded strong on each planet but are stronger because of natural selection.

If Orks would unit or grow a brain they would win,no doubt. I believe Orks also reproduce by spitting, thus they would gather in hordes and produce farms of Ork fungus's. They would create armies daily and arm them with a axe or two and create a super WAAAGH so powerful it'd be almighty sight.
 
#20 ·
Crons can't feed off the nids. Like the Chaos Gods, they feed off emotions and psychic power. Last time I checked, 99% of nids don't have psychic powers in the fluff (so, not counting The Doom or anything). They could eat a Hivemind or two, but not much else. No- I'm thinking that they would hide, wait until the Nids eat everything, then eat each other, then go into stasis and drift into some other unsuspecting universe (LotR TTG please). The necrons are still asleep and wait for little bits of star-material or tiny little organic survivors to form/evolve into new species of creatures. Then they wake up, enslave and eat all of that, and become ultimate gods of the galaxy.
I'm still defending my ideas though. Because well- I doubt that it will really end. GW will find a way to weave through it all.

Now, how will it all actually end? GW will go out in 1 of 2 ways. Either it will die quietly in its sleep and we'll be reliant on devoted players to pick up the broken pieces (like Battletech -> CAV), or it will go out with a bang, and there will be a lot of last ditch efforts at marketing. This means that they'll wake up every single god they can think of, toss them all into production, run a half-baked summer campaign about the next Black Crusade + Waaagh + Nids + Crons + Doom of the Eldar + Death of the Emperor + AdMech Schism + Tau Crusade, and when that fails, go under for good.
 
#21 ·
Chaos will win. Once the Emperor eventually dies, humans will lose reliable warp travel. The choice then will be death by bugs, death by Orks, death by Necrons or partnership with Chaos. Add in the fact that Chaos is not limited by reality and it isn't a hard decision to make. After all, they're the only enemies who have a use for humans other than food and target practice.

If the Emperor reincarnates as a warp god then it still counts as a Chaos victory! He'll be the Dark God of Stasis and Boredom or something.
 
#22 ·
The Emperor would reincarnate as himself. Chaos would have, ooh, 5-6 years while he got all that growing up out of the way and then he'd be back in action and you'd be getting your arse kicked by a kiddy :p

Chaos winning = chaos losing. Once everyone is dead, they stop existing.
 
#23 ·
Aside from nids I think the second best thing is the imperium. Emprah wakes up, another great crusade and exterminates a whole lot of stuff.
 
#24 ·
I don't know who wins, but the Imperium loses. If you view all current fluff from the PoV that it is humanity's fate to be wiped out then all of their d-baggery comes off as kind of tragic. Otherwise the Imperium is just one large organization of GW favored mary sues. I'd like to be optimistic about GW and assume they are going for the whole doomed heroes fighting against fate angle.
 
#26 ·
We know from the cabal:The foreseen outcome of the Heresy, the Cabal saw the Emperor giving his life to kill Horus, becoming a howling rictus trapped inside the Golden Throne. They believed that this path would lead to stagnation, and stagnation to decay. This decay would accelerate, continually allowing the Chaos powers to grow and spread their influence, until after ten or twenty thousand years of misery, the entire galaxy would be consumed by Chaos.

Also they tried to convince Alpharius help Horus believing that if Horus won he would retain a fragment of his hounur thus enter a state of self loathing after his victory and after two generations intiate such carnage that mankind will be exctinct and chaos having invested so much in mankind would cease to exist.

As far i understand the only real outcome is the death of mankind and the collapse of chaos.What happens afterwards?I believe the eldar god that is forming on the infinity circuit will awaken while the eldar slowly die as mankind falls.In his/her weakened state slaanesh kills and gets killed by the eldar god.With the destruction of chaos and mankind and the death of the eldar the necrons turn on the rest of the species of the galaxy.Commoragh is found by the crons and nothing is left alive.Mean while the nids consume everything at their path.The tau fall between the necron and tyranid crossfire and without the shield that the imperium was are wiped out.
As to who wins eldar or Crons i believe it has to be measured by 2 factors.How much can the tyranids spread their forces and find the necron tombs before they run out of biomass and just how powerfull is the hive mind to compete with the star gods.
There is a rumor that sais that the hive mind might also be a star god...
 
#27 ·
Commoragh is found by the crons and nothing is left alive.Mean while the nids consume everything at their path.The tau fall between the necron and tyranid crossfire and without the shield that the imperium was are wiped out.
As to who wins eldar or Crons i believe it has to be measured by 2 factors.How much can the tyranids spread their forces and find the necron tombs before they run out of biomass and just how powerfull is the hive mind to compete with the star gods.
That is a lot of credit given to Necrons. They really aren't that big of a deal. Have they even destroyed anything worthwhile in fluff? I know Tyranids messed up Iyanden and they can destroy whole imperial systems, but last I remember Necrons killed a bunch of Sisters of Battle at some random fortress and spend the rest of their time sleeping and planning for the time the 'crons will rise again like some sort of mentally deficient robotic version of the Eldar.
 
#30 ·
Fair enough on the Old Ones part, but wasn't that them at their absolute peak? Eldar at their peak accidentally created a god by enjoying murder and other kinky crap just a little too much, but they definitely don't have that power now.

At the very least I can't imagine the Necrons having any real success as long as the Imperium is around. As much as I hate the Imperium fluffwise they could probably singlehandedly defeat any other army in the galaxy if push came to shove. An entire Hive Fleet was stopped a Macragge by 4 companies of Ultramarines. My math may be a little off, but that is roughly 40% of one chapter of marines. The Imperium has about 1,000 chapters of marines according to Lexicanum. Considering Tyranids are the probably the biggest threat to the galaxy as a whole, and an entire Hive Fleet was stopped by 0.04% of the Space Marines, I deduce that Necrons stand little to no chance barring something serious taking down the Imperium.

Assuming Necrons could even get to Comorragh I'd imagine that massive ancient "city" to at least be able to handle its own. Comorragh has been around since long before the fall. I can't imagine its because of luck.
 
#37 ·
Eldar were at the height of their power roughly around the same times as the necrons were. The necrons were beating them with ease. Then the fall screwed everything up for everything by giving birth to chaos in general which killed nigh-on everything in the galaxy combined with the enslavers. The necrons survived this with no worry whatsoever. The eldar scraped through by hiding in the webway. Most other races were reduced to virtually nothing of their origional power and this left necrons in control of a dead galaxy consisting of lots of dead stuff. So they went to sleep. Unfortunately as they did so various eldar attempted to sabotage their tombs and c'tan played tricks on each other (particularly involving the NB). So then you have the entire galaxy-spanning necron empire in stasis except they don't really have any control over when they wake up due to sabotage.

So present day their are thousand of necron tombs around with very little leadership with the NB in a weakened state, the deceiver not caring about the necrons unless it benefits him and the only real power they have (the void dragon) trapped in mars. Give it a few hundred years and they'll get some plan together and sort out a proper fleet and army. Then KICK ASS. Just remember that when they wake up on a planet they will take complete control within a matter of months. Damnos being the classic. So if there are only say 10 other imperial worlds with necrons on that means that the imperium could technically loose 10 planets in the blink of an eye. Also remember that what we see of necrons right now are raiding forces and fleets. A necron raiding fleet can take what appears to be entire imperial fleets by themselves. If they get a proper force together nothing can really be a threat to them.
 
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