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#1 · (Edited)
Hey all, I'm tired of getting wiped by my friend who plays Helfs.
so here's my attempt to make an army.
all mark of chaos undiv. unless stated otherwise

Characters
-Galrauch the great drake Galrauch is a lvl 4 wizard who uses the lore of tzeentch 616
-Wulfrik the wanderer The will of chaos, Eye of the gods, Gift of the Tongues, Hunter of men 175
-Chaos Sorcerer 85
Core
-chaos marauders shield, light armour 66
-chaos marauders chieftain shield, light armour 14
-chaos warrior shields, great weapon, hand weapon, chaos armour, chosen 192
-chaos warrior Chieftain Shields, great weapon, hand weapon, chaos armour, chosen 28
-chaos warrior shields, great weapon, chaos armour 171
-chaos war Chieftain shields, great weapon, chaos armour 29

Special
-2x Chariot Halberts, Scythes 240

Rare
-Chaos Dwarfs Hand weapon, Heavy armor, Unbreakable (as long as hellcanon is alive)
-HellcannonTerror, Large target, Unbreakable, Rampage, Doomfire, Bound daemon 205


Total Points 1996

please feel free to comment.
Tell me what to change and why (so I can learn from it)

Thanx,
Tinux
 
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#4 ·
I still can't read your list properly. I can tell you it's illegal though, since you may only spent 25% of your points (500 for a 2k army) on lords, so no galrauch for you. Also, Speaking as a long seasoned High elf, Woc are one of the easiest lists to play against, so there's no shame in loosing, on your part.
 
#5 ·
Hey, I edited again.
I know chaos is easy to wipe since I'm doing that a lot ;-)
Shame Galrauch is out of the question as I said I'm a noob and didn't calculate the 25% (Looking for a corner to stand in shamefully)
It's a shame I can't use daemons anymore since I have some of them.

I bought a lot of chars in the past since I didn't know how to play but liked the models ;-)
And then after some time I found an opponent to play with so I bunged up an army with what I had. The problem was I got caught in the crossfire of arrows and nasty Helf magic.

Some of the chars I have
-Archaon (not usable in a 2k army)
-Galrauch (not usable in a 2K army)
-Tzeench lord on disc
-Champion of chaos (2X)
-Champion of Khorne
-champion of chaos (2)
-Sorcerer of chaos with familliar
-Sorcerer of chaos mounted
-sorcerer of chaos
-sorcerer of Nurgle
-spawn
-furies (10 )
-daemonettes(10 )
-chaos warriors (4regiments)
-chaos marauders (1 regiment)
-marauder horseman (5)
-charriot (2)
-hellcanon + crew

Maybe someone can help me to create a nice army of this I have some more but my opponent doesn't have more than 2k and I'm willing to buy some other chars
 
#6 ·
I have a few suggestions that might help vs. High Elves.

1. Lore of Shadow.This will enable you to reduce INI and thus their re-rolls to hit, or their BS if they have range.
2. LOTS Chaos Warriors with MoT and Shield are your best chance of fighting toe to toe. Put a Blasted Standard on them to keep them alive vs. arrow fire.
3. You could convert your chariot to a warshrine, which is very good to cast on regiments.

I played with such a list against HE a few weeks ago, with knights to flank. Very very easy win - he hasn't gone range-happy on me since.
 
#8 ·
The question is, what does he field? If he goes range happy (not the smartest thing agains WoC), shields, mot, and possibly a MoS marauder screen is to go. If he taylors his army specifically, to beat WoC, winning is almost out of the question, unless he makes some really big screw ups, you drastically outplay him, or the dice gods really favor you).
 
#9 ·
The last time he fielded 2 reg's of archers, 2 regs of swordsman, 2 wizards (or whatever the helf version is called) and a unit of horseman
and unfortunately the dice gods where not in my favour (maybe I should sacrifice some elves to them)
 
#10 ·
He's definately not going anti-chaos then, lucky you. (In fact, fielding no spears and no rbts, your opponent doesn't seem to value winning all that much). In that case, go for everything (knights, Mot Warriors, Chosen, Warshrines) that's hard enough to shrug off the Swordmasters S5. Once you get to hit them, they'll die like flies.
 
#11 ·
Its all about defense vs HElfs. Our base stats beat theirs easily, so you just have to live long enough to prove that. Tzeentch everything, use MR everywhere and on your most important unit throw the blasted standard. And then use Shadow magic alot. Mostly I mean nerf his sword master's strength, and then nerf his archer's BS and wherever there is an important combat, go with the big Miasma, to nerf both WS & Int. With average WS and Int, Helfs just fall over.
 
#12 ·
Okay I messed around again, here's the results

Lords

  • Sorcerer Lord
    305​

    • Disc of Tzeentch
      MoT
      Lvl 4 Upgrade
    Wulfrik the Wanderer
    185​
Core:

  • Chaos Marauders (10 ) Wulfrik goes in here
    80​

    • Shields
      Light armour
      MoT
    Chaos Warriors (10 ) Sorcerer lord goes in here
    230​

    • MoT
      Shields
      Blasted Standard
    Marauder Horseman (5)
    125​

    • Shields
      MoT
      Throwin Spears
      Musician
      Chieftain
      standard bearer
    Chaos Warriors
    320​

    • MoT
      Shields
      Great Weapons
      Champion
      Standard Bearer
      Musician
Special:

  • Hell Canon of chaos
    205​
    Chaos Warschrine
    150​

    • MoT
    Chaos Charriot
    120​

92 pts left
so please shoot on my army tips are welcome
 
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