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#1 ·
I recently posted a friendly 2k point list, this is more of a competetive, hard playing list, and I appreciate everyone who gave me advice on the last list.

LT mark tzeentch, pwr weapon, kai gun, gift of chaos, frags, spiky bits, mounted with one squad in rhino-121

LT mark tzeentch, Pwr weapon, Bolt pistol, bolt of change, familiar, gift of chaos, mounted with other squad in rhino-126

9 rubric CSM, rhino w/xtra armor & smoke launchers, champ bolt of change, power fist, teleport homer, familiar, gift of chaos-349

9 rubric CSM, rhino w/xtra armor & smoke launchers, champ BoC, power fist, teleport homer, familiar, gift of chaos-349

9 flamers-207

9 rubric termies, deep strike (if mission allows) champ w/pwr fist instead of combi-bolter (he keeps his pwr mace for +1 attack) BoC, familiar, gift of chaos

5 screamers 75 (a little extra CC boost)

dreadnaught, demon and parasitic possession, plasma cannon, DCCW-155

predetor, 1 autocannon, 2 lascannons, demonic, and parasitic possession
 
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#2 ·
LT mark tzeentch, pwr weapon, kai gun, gift of chaos, frags, spiky bits, mounted with one squad in rhino-121
I would say make this one a sniper. But not a close combat fighter. Maybe switch out gift of chaos for daemonic flight? drop the spikey bits if you do that then. I would even get rid of the Kai Gun, give him a bolt pistol and Bolt of Change. For me, his sweet ballistic skill justifies his dedicated role as a BoC sniper. Mabye even switch out flight for 4 thralls, this guy needs to be a bit more careful as he loses independent charactar status, but he rips on everything.
LT mark tzeentch, Pwr weapon, Bolt pistol, bolt of change, familiar, gift of chaos, mounted with other squad in rhino-126
Good. Cheap, but with good abilities.
9 rubric CSM, rhino w/xtra armor & smoke launchers, champ bolt of change, power fist, teleport homer, familiar, gift of chaos-349

9 rubric CSM, rhino w/xtra armor & smoke launchers, champ BoC, power fist, teleport homer, familiar, gift of chaos-349
Good, very good. Just remeber to move the rhinos 11" and use that BoC, I sometimes forget to.:(
9 flamers-207
Sick.
9 rubric termies, deep strike (if mission allows) champ w/pwr fist instead of combi-bolter (he keeps his pwr mace for +1 attack) BoC, familiar, gift of chaos
Ok. If these guys can't deepstrike, then gift of chaos is probably going to go on unused. Also, nine termies of any type are a ton, especially when deepstriking. I would say six. I run five, but thats because I don't want to buy another. :yes: Yes, I am cheap. I suggest a chainfist instead of powerfist, just in case (plus it looks cooler).

On a side note, if you deepstrike more that can fit in the area of the 5" template, what do you do? Keep on going around it?
5 screamers 75 (a little extra CC boost)
Good that these are here. If you drop three termies, you can fill this out to 7 and also, see below...
dreadnaught, demon and parasitic possession, plasma cannon, DCCW-155

predetor, 1 autocannon, 2 lascannons, demonic, and parasitic possession
I think parasitic possession will be a waste of points. If the three termies were dropped and the 2 screamers bought, and the parasitic possession dropped on those, then add this guy:

Dread, daemonic possession, Plasma cannon! 135 Points with one point to spare.

Two plasma cannons = nice. It gives you more vehicles which means more vehicle survivability, and also more chances that you will shoot twice with the plasma! (sometimes bad, sometimes great!)

Hope this helps!
 
#4 ·
I'd love to get another dread', but i'm flat broke right now:( . and i don't really have the the desire to get another 40$ box of 5 screamers and only use 2 of them.

the first LT is mostly a sniper, the frags are just 1 pt filler to make 2000 even. and the spiky bits are to make him just a little more effective in close combat, to the same effectiveness as other LT (as one w/ BoC has 2 CC weapons and kai gun doesn't). so for the most part, he's just a extra powerful squad leader for one of my 1ksons squads.

and they can start the game mounted in rhinos with the troop squads right?

the termie's are once again, good for 1:drawing fire, 2:"dealing out torrents of their own". If the game board is not very good for deep striking, I can just use the homers, or for if one of the 1ksons squads is in a bad situation...9 termies will scare anyone who doesn't know that they're coming. they've helped me out in many a situation.
 
#5 ·
Yeah, money is a problem, big surprise, but it seems like you have got a competitive list there. You've got speed and reliable surprises. My main concern is model count, but theres not really a whole lot you can do about that. In a perfect (aka free) world, I would by the extra stuff, but I totally hear you on that. Money holds many of us back from playing the solid lists that we develop on this forum.

Have you played many games with this setup? How does everything fare?
 
#6 · (Edited)
no, the two LT,s is a very different setup for me, in 2k pts games, I normally field a DP and birdie, or LT. my hq's are normally very CC, so I thought I would try something different. But I do have a friend who got a Dreaddy for free, that he doesn't use, maybe he'll sell it for cheap. he's the guy that i normally play. he like to play a 'chaos surprise' army. something most wouldn't expect. khornate lord, berserkers, plague termies, and tzeentch gift termies. plus all the demons that you can shake a
stick (bedlam staff maybe...) at.

BTW, is it legal to put two 1 pt CCW's on a DP with stature, or do the weapons have to be different, because tzeentch doesn't have any that would be particularly useful on a Statured DP (maybe a lord, but thats besides the point)

you don't mind me putting you on my buddy list, do you?
 
#8 · (Edited)
And yes, you can pick two of the same single handed weapons (though not daemon weapons), but no multiples of wargear.[/quote]

thx, I was wondering about that for a while, but no one else seemed to know the answer, everyone using a primary weapon other than regular, or BP and CCW, which, as we know can't do on a statured lord

O, and repeating a question earlier, can a LT start the game mounted with 1K sons in rhino
 
#9 · (Edited)
Wonderful! I love to see BoC in the Thousand Sons. A lot of people dismiss them in favour of WoC, which is terrible in my opinion.

I personally would use Flamers in units of six, but nine is fine as well. Screamers are good, but tend to get shot to death in the second round them come in, so I drop them altogether. I never placed too much emphasize on Fast Attack anyway. If it works for you, keep them

As for the dreadnought, I would not put too many gifts on it, mainly because armour 12 would not stay too long in a 2000 game. But then again, my DE friend has about 20 Dark Lances.

Have you considered a Dreadnought with Warp Flame and 2 CCW? Autohit all in unit first, followed by S10 hits are indeed terrible to behold. I even use Warp Flame sometimes against horde armies as I know it will make back the points. (Good bye Genestealers).

The LT can lead the squad in the rhino in beginning of the game.

Other than that, it looks fine. Although I could never resist a chainfist on the champ.
Oh yeah, Thrall wizards. Drop the homers for Thrall Wizards.
 
#10 ·
I got a second dread from my friend for 5$ so here's a revised list with it.

HQ
LT, mark, kai gun, pwr weapon, gift of chaos, melta bombs, mounted in rhino-130

LT, mark, BoC, familiar, GiftoC, pwr weapon, BP, frags, mounted in other rhino-127

Troops

9X 1Ksons rhino xtra armor, smoke launchers, champ, BoC, gift oC, familiar, pwr fist, teleport homer-349

9X 1ksons, rhino, xtra armor, smoke launchers, champ, BoC, gift oC, familiar, pwr fist, teleport homer-349

9 flamers 207

Elites

8 rubric termis deep strike (if able) champ, BoC, chainfist, familiar, gift, visage-424

Heavies

dreadnaught, demonic possession, plasma cannon, DCCW-135

dreadnaught, see above-135

predetor- autocannon, 2 lascannons, demonic possession-145

so there it is, any comments, critiques, criticisms, advice, and all other forms of correspondence will be appreciated.
 
#17 ·
Well, for Deep Strike - no template. For daemons, technically yes, you still should use the pie plate I believe - but this usually isn't a big deal unless your opponent is a rules stickler. People are usually reasonable. It seems kind of silly that GW would make daemon models like Screamers if you could only fit four or five under there...
 
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