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1550pts tourney - this weekend - pls help

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#1 · (Edited)
Whoops! tourney is 1500pts

Hi all. Have come up with this list for the tourney this weekend. What do you think? Str vs. weaknesses? Any comments appreciated

155pts DP - Slaanesh with Lash/wings
175pts DP - Tzeentch with Warptime/wings
289pts 8xPlague Marines, 2xPlasma, Champ w/ Fist - Rhino
240pts 9xCSM, 2xMelta, Champ w/P.fist, Icon of CG - Rhino
225pts 9xNoise Marines w/Sonic Blasters
130pts Predator w/Las sponsons
130pts Predator w/Las sponsons
150pts Defiler

1494pts
 
#2 ·
Whoops! tourney is 1500pts

Hi all. Have come up with this list for the tourney this weekend. What do you think? Str vs. weaknesses? Any comments appreciated

155pts DP - Slaanesh with Lash/wings
Hmm, only the defiler seems to be able to really make use of his power. However otherwise good.

175pts DP - Tzeentch with Warptime/wings
Very expensivew on his own, when combined with the above HQ you was putting too many points into the HQ. Drop one or the other, i'd drop this one.

289pts 8xPlague Marines, 2xPlasma, Champ w/ Fist - Rhino
Hmm, not bad, but to be totally honest i'd rather take more basic marines, they are just so much better value for your points. Drop for a squad the same as below, but with 10 members.

240pts 9xCSM, 2xMelta, Champ w/P.fist, Icon of CG - Rhino
Can't have 2 meltas with only 9 marines. Add one more, otherwise great. You want 1 more of this squad.

225pts 9xNoise Marines w/Sonic Blasters
I'd either swap them for the squad as above, using the points spare from the plague marines, or give them a rhino, champion with doom siren and Power Weapon, and make them a CC squad. Also add a 10th member. Either way, tget another rhino in here. Even if you add it to this current squad, as more rhinos means your current ones are more survivable.

130pts Predator w/Las sponsons
130pts Predator w/Las sponsons
I like these, work great in pairs.

150pts Defiler
Consider either dropping it for 2 obliterators, or drop the 2 predators for 1 defiler and 2 obliterators. Plasma cannons are too good to pass up.
1494pts

With the extra points saved from dropping the Tzeentch Prince, consider taking a 'Karmoon Special' terminator squad. 4 Terminators, 3 combi plasmas, 1 heavy flamer/powerfist. 150 points.
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#3 ·
155pts DP - Slaanesh with Lash/wings

Consider warptime instead of lash. That Initiative 6 is great for carving up other daemon princes and Init 5 units.

175pts DP - Tzeentch with Warptime/wings

Nice

289pts 8xPlague Marines, 2xPlasma, Champ w/ Fist - Rhino
240pts 9xCSM, 2xMelta, Champ w/P.fist, Icon of CG - Rhino
225pts 9xNoise Marines w/Sonic Blasters

All nice


130pts Predator w/Las sponsons
130pts Predator w/Las sponsons
150pts Defiler

1494pts
Apart from the Slaanesh daemon prince it looks pretty cool.
 
#4 ·
Whoops! tourney is 1500pts

Hi all. Have come up with this list for the tourney this weekend. What do you think? Str vs. weaknesses? Any comments appreciated

155pts DP - Slaanesh with Lash/wings
A requirement I suppose though only the Defiler seems to benefit.

175pts DP - Tzeentch with Warptime/wings
Ugh-drop the MoT and give him MoS instead. Keep Warptime and watch the fun you have hitting before most things.

289pts 8xPlague Marines, 2xPlasma, Champ w/ Fist - Rhino
Personally Id drop it to 7 just for fluff but up to you, you will need extra points though for the 10th CSM below.
240pts 9xCSM, 2xMelta, Champ w/P.fist, Icon of CG - Rhino
Illegal. Needs to be 10 to have the second heavy weapon.

225pts 9xNoise Marines w/Sonic Blasters
What role have you in mind for them without a rhino?

130pts Predator w/Las sponsons
130pts Predator w/Las sponsons
Cheap and cheerful. Good.

150pts Defiler
Good though you may want to consider 2 Oblits instead for the Plasma fun.

Id consider dropping a DP in favour of adding Terminators as Riptor said.
1494pts
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#5 ·
Whoops! tourney is 1500pts

Hi all. Have come up with this list for the tourney this weekend. What do you think? Str vs. weaknesses? Any comments appreciated

155pts DP - Slaanesh with Lash/wings
175pts DP - Tzeentch with Warptime/wings
289pts 8xPlague Marines, 2xPlasma, Champ w/ Fist - Rhino
240pts 9xCSM, 2xMelta, Champ w/P.fist, Icon of CG - Rhino
225pts 9xNoise Marines w/Sonic Blasters
130pts Predator w/Las sponsons
130pts Predator w/Las sponsons
150pts Defiler

1494pts
Sweet, thanks for the feedback. Lash DP is good in all aspects. Lash increases his CC range, allows him to lash Havoc's/Dev squads away behind cover so they can't shoot and helps the defiler if necessary. For the points he is unreal. Am considering dropping the 2nd one for termies (Karmoon special). Already have him modelled though and don't have termies WYSIWYG. The CSM squad was 10 but I dropped one to upgrade the P.Wpn to a Fist. Forgot about the 10 man 2 special wpns. Whoops! Will probably drop a Plague Marine to replace him or a Noise Marine. The Noise marines are awesome and don't need a Rhino. They hold your home objecive and fire an awesome 27 bolter rounds (magical horde dissapearing trick) or assualt 2 while you move forwards (while the imperial scum only get one if they don't move). For the points they are great! Have considered dropping the Defiler for 2xOblits but the Defiler is much more imposing. Leaves them thinkin Defiler, DP's, Rhino's, Pred's - where to start? Do really like oblits for their flexibility but one Lascannon and one dies (usually). If they had T5.....
 
#7 ·
Whilst you are correct, they don't need a rhino, adding in an extra rhino (Even if they don't use it!) makes your current ones less likely to be targetted, and thus more survivable. Plus if one squads rhino is destroyed, they can commandeer the Noise Marines one.
 
#8 ·
No worries Lord - you should try Noice Marines w/Sonic Blasters. I swear by them. I always take one squad at least.

Riptor - good point but I don't have a 3rd rhino atm. Is something I had considered fixing but I'm running a little short on time. Just going to run with what I have - the 2 DP's, 7xplague w/rhino, 10xcsm w/rhino, 9xnoise, 2xpred and defiler. I will add Doom Bolt to the Tzeentch DP with the spare points.

Will let you know how I go after the weekend. See how I go. Wish me luck. And the end of the day as long as it's fun that's the main thing (and I get to kill some imperial scum!) Lol!:soldier:
 
#9 ·
2nd Place!!!

Hi all. 2nd place!!! Was a great tourney. Only about thirty or so but that is good for round here being a smaller town. Great fun which is the main thing. Thought I would post battle reports so hopefully you enjoy them and/or can learn a little.

Game 1
Win - vs Chaos
Spearhead, 5 objectives
He had Defiler, Vindicator w/D.Possesion in Rhino/champ. w/fist, Csm in Rhino/2xmelta/champ.w/fist, 10 T.Sons+A.Sorcerer+Lord w/Tz.Daemon Wpn, DP w/Lash
Lost intitiative. We both advanced towards each other. My Tz DP ripped his Dp while my Plague M killed his Csm on one side. On the other side his Sons started wasting my Noise M until they got Lashed and charged by my Sl DP and my CSM. Blew up his Beserker rhino and charged the Zerkers with the 2xDP's and the remaining Csm. Tanks all had a minor role.
Can't remember VP's (I had 2-3? objectives, 400 vs 1200?) but I was winning after 2nd turn as soon as we got into CC and it never got better for him.
Great game against a nice bloke I had played in a previous tourney. Good to catch up.

Game 2
Win vs SM
Pitched Battle, Kill points
He had Shrike( the special Cpt guy)+Chaplain+5 Man assualt squad w/T. Hammer (all togther w/jump packs. 3xsquads of 10 scouts w/P.wpn Sgt, 1xsquad of 10 scouts w/1xML, 9xsniper, 2xvindictors, techmarine on bike
He won intiative. Nasty. I didn't know what I was in for. His whole army infiltrated besides the 2 tanks (had me scratching my head, I am sure it was the same look that I see on peoples faces when I play Daemons and they go first, Lol).
He then infiltrated 18" away - 6" scout - 6" move - fleet d6"(everyone can because of shrike) - 6" charge = 19-24" = CC in the first turn! I am talking about the whole army (well almost). He managed to wipe out my entire Noise Marines in the 1st turn. I don't know why he had ordnance tanks, he didn't fire all game because everything was in CC or to much risk of hitting his or out of range.
I countered with everything I could. I then shot up all his assualt squad except T. Hammer and charged them with my Sl.DP and Defiler. Defiler actually charged a squad at the same time. DP killed his T.Hammer dude and Defiler couldn't really be hurt after that (grenades). This battle took awhile due too my unlucky rolls but I killed them and his 3rd squad as well. Plagues engaged a squad in CC and slowly killed them. Predators eventually killed one tank and a few snipers. Csm and Tz DP killed his Techmarine and a Vindictor and DP flew on to kill the remaining Snipers.
Killed his whole army eventually but he really caught me flat footed at the start but I managed to claw my way back into it by turn 2 and then it was all bad news for him. Dominant win. Nice guy but I think he got a little put out once he realised my Defiler was about to tear up his 2xHQ's and 2xSquads and there was nothing he could really do (grenades only). All good though, I would have been a little down too.
>kisses Defiler:kissing:<
VP's - 1500 vs 500 or so? maybe less. KP 4 vs 12 or something

Game 3
Loss vs Eldar
Dawn of war, Home objectives, night fighting
He had, Farseer w/Doom and Runes of Warding (doh!), Some Phoenix Lord that begins with K costs more than 200 and has 6 powerfist attacks (ouch) in some assualt squad that had a powerfist leader as well(big ouch), 2 wave serpents, one had fire dragons, one had banshees, two basice troops - i think dire avengers - the shooty ones, 2x Fire Prisms
Won initiative and deplyoed Sl. DP, Noise Marines on my objective in a building near the centre and a rhino 6" from the edge (give my Plagues and effective 18" move after embarking the rear). He deployed farseer and his only 2 troops, I thought kill them and hold mine, easy. I didn't know about the nightfighting (missed that somewhere, doh) and when all my stuff came on it couldn't shoot in the dark. He then killed my Sl. DP first turn after putting Doom (nasty power that) on him and then basically outmanuevered me.
The game ended at turn early in which I would have drawn or even won. You get that. He managed to hold me off his objective until the end in which my Defiler rolled a 1 for fleet and failed to charge to contest it. He contested mine on his lsst turn with a wave serpent moving 24". My melta's and fist should have killed it next turn and my defiler would contest his and manuvered so hhe couldn't get near it. Ah, well
He had me on the back foot from the start as I didn't really know what I was up against (haven't fought much eldar) and I made some poor decisions (I didn't know they were poor until he pulled some nasty Eldar trick) ,, lol.
Very competitive game. I played this guy in a tourney earlier this year (my first tourney) in which I whooped him and won the tourney and he had a cry about my 2 Lash Princes (which is why I didn't use them this time is he is the Club President in a nearby town). Me beating him put him in 4th. He had Space marines then. From playing him previously and the feedback I had from people playing him I knew I had this game would likely determine some placings and I really wanted to win but it wasn't to be.
Good game and we get along great now. 1 all now - I want a rematch!
VP's - He had like 1100 and I only had 700 or so, he had one objective
He went on to win the Tourney! Congrats

Game 4
Win vs Chaos
Spearhead, 4 objectives
He had Tz DP w/wings+warptime, 8 Zerkers w fist, 9 sons incl. Champ, 6 noise w/ sonice blasters and a blast master and champ w/p.wpn, 14 plague marines w/2xmeltas and champ w/ fist, 2xoblits
He won initiative. Advanced and he shot a few Noise marines. I lashed his zerkers and charged them w both DP's. Killed all but P.Fist champ. Perfect. Can't shoot me now. No wnds! My Plagues managed to just charge his Sons as he chose to run them (why?, he could have shot), Yay! although he manages to win combat?. Preds kill an oblit. He then charges my DP's with all his plagues and DP. My Tz DP goes toe to toe with his DP and I cuase no wnds and then fail all 4 of my saves and die? (he was the favoured one?) My other DP eventually dies and my Preds then shoot up his DP but it kills my Defiler first. Eventually his Plagues get to mine as well as his Noise marines and kill them. He holds that objective but I then deny it with a Rhino and hold 1 with my Noise Marines and win.
Great game, mass CC with Chaos, as it should be.
VP's - 700 vs 1200, I hold one objective

Game 5
Win vs Sisters of Battle
Pitched Battle, Kill Points
Don't really know this army as I never played them or seen them but he had 6 of those points, a squad of CC guys w/ priest, jump pack squad with special character with 6str and 2+ inv after some spell point, insane, two normal squads with meltas and fists, imperial guard - two platoons w/ missile launcher and grenade launcher, comman squad same, and two tanks with d6 high power shots!!!
I went first and proceeded to destroy a whole guard squad with my noise marines and blast a rhino with one pred and defiler cannon kills the whole squad inside. He doesn't do much as I get lucky. Both DP's charge his HQ and the jump pack attachment and eventually I win but am so wounded I get wiped out by a counter charge from him.
My shooting kills all his Guard in the end and my Plagues die to mass shooting and some other of their special powers that make rending ap1 hits! M CSM wipe out the priest squad and the last of his other squad. In the end the only thing i don't kill was two tanks wich were unharmed.
Great game - nice guy and great to see something new!
VP's 600 vs 1200 or so - 4 KP vs 12 Kill Points!

All in all got 2nd. Yay!
Made some great new friends, had a ball, some cool stuff and had a great weekend.
Hope you like the battle reports! Tried not to ramble and make it clear but see what you think.
Cheers
 
#10 ·
Excellent result mate, some good close games there. Nice to see.

It was very interesting to see so many chaos armies with multiple cult units. I tend to be a purist and tend to go for mono-god lists. Where there any mono-god chaos armies there that you noticed?

Once again, congrat on a great placing.
 
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