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    Are Humans Animals?

    The other day in English class, we were discussing Dulce et Decorum Est by Wilfred Owen, and the teacher said something about the soldiers being treated like animals. This got me wondering, are humans animals? In my opinion, yes, we are animals. Just highly evolved ones. What do you think?

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    In a scientific sense, we are animals.

    In a literary sense, we've always made distinctions between ourselves and animals.

    It depends on what discipline you're in. :rofl

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    I don't want to speak for the entire race but I do know I am an animal. Sometimes it's more obvious but it's always quite a present feature.

    I will be divine one day though... 0: just a puff of very nice mind floating around doing good deeds and never indulge in them foul primary needs.

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    Who's an animal! *raises hand*

    But perhaps.... a higher level of animal? maybe there should be a distinction between animal and.....consicence? Because I think morality is what seperates man from animals. Although..this can be argued, as there are some representations of morality that are distinctive amongst animals. And then like.. there's the whole debate that morality is based off of intinct and experience.......which is animal in nature... of frak, forget all of that.

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    In scienticic terms, yes, ofcourse we are. And while we may be (one of) the most intellectually evolved animals on this planet, it doesnt mean we are any more evolved than other species. Every species has had time to evolve, the level of evoloution is dependant on the time the specias has been around and the condtions in which it survives.


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    Etymology

    The word "animal" comes from the Latin word animale, neuter of animalis, and is derived from anima, meaning vital breath or soul. In everyday colloquial usage, the word usually refers to non-human animals. The biological definition of the word refers to all members of the Kingdom Animalia. Therefore, when the word "animal" is used in a biological context, humans are included.


    Personally, i think its quite sad that some people consider humans the superior species and hence above all others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deciev...Phoenix
    Personally, i think its quite sad that some people consider humans the superior species and hence above all others.
    Well, though I think we are animals I also think we are quite superior. I don't want to mock beings like platypus and moose, but given the present situation we actually own them.

    Like if we decided "Down with the moose" or "Death to all platypus" it'd be in our power to make it real. Not even if the moose and platypus united would they be able to overthrow us.
    We eat animals and burn our bodies to prevent them from eating us.

    Now, I'm all enviromentalfriendly, recycling and such, but I do think we are quite a broken species. We are like Grey Knight Terminators costing 2 points compared to a 150 point Tau with no gun.

    It is however important that we realise that with great power comes great fun...and also great responsibility. We should take better care of the not quite so superior species if for nothing else so for our species to prevail.


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    Opposable thumbs and the ability to modify our environement to suit our imediate ends seem to have gotten us a long way!
    However we have a major problem as a species with has hounded us for generations now - and that is the fact that we are the only species which activly destroys the environment that we are within; we over hunt and over extract resources. A good lesson for this is that studies of past interglacial periods (periods between ice ages) shows that the spread of animals such as rinos, hippos, lions and tigers is far greater than it is today - they were found in london! So far the only difference found between our current interglacial period and the others is humanity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andusciassus View Post
    Like if we decided "Down with the moose" or "Death to all platypus" it'd be in our power to make it real. Not even if the moose and platypus united would they be able to overthrow us.
    I feel like pointing out the Queens of the Stone Age video clip for 'No one knows' as evidence that Moose may one day be mounting our heads on their walls!

    Also, I'm not so sure about eradicating the entire Platypus species. From what I know, they're pretty hard to find, and while I'm sure we could just poison all the waterways to get rid of them that leaves us in a bit of a pickle too.

    Joking aside, I'm not all that sure we'd be quite the 'superior species' if it weren't for all the other creatures around us. Many of our early advancements came from watching animals in the wild, noticing how they behaved, and adapting that for our use.

    The first plane is the only example that really comes to mind at the moment; the Wright brothers watched birds flying and noticed how they twisted the tips of their wings to control the direction of their flight. So, they adapted a similar system for their own craft!

    In short, nature rocks! And I too think we should be paying looking after it a little (or a lot) better than we are at the moment.
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    We are animals, we have the smae needs and instincts as every other "animal" the need to breed, feed, the need for companionship etc.

    we are animals just more intelligent animals than all the others, just because a Wolf is smarter than a bull mastif doesnt stop it being a dog anymore, just because a man is smarter than a chimp, doesnt stop him being a mammal, or, animal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett
    Joking aside, I'm not all that sure we'd be quite the 'superior species' if it weren't for all the other creatures around us. Many of our early advancements came from watching animals in the wild, noticing how they behaved, and adapting that for our use.
    I completely agree yet disagree with you here. See, to me our ability to observe, ponder and eventually learn from others is pretty much what makes us "superior". So, sure if we didn't have that ability we wouldn't be superior. Now we are.

    To me this "superiority" is pretty much a food-chain-thing. We eat them and they don't eat us (with a few exemptions of course).

    I think it's as silly to say we are not animals as it is to say that we are the other animals equals. We are like the top of the muffin when it comes to natural selection since we bend nature to suit us in a way other animals just can't.
    It might be considered evolutionary cheating or divinity, but it is pretty cool. Only to have this discussion across the globe, despite the lack of volume to our voices, shows that we somewhat intellectually, culturally, technologically superior to the Moose despite their bellowing ability.

    And I don't think we are the only species that, when given the opportunity, consumes more than the surrounding land can produce. I don't think there's like any other species that would even begin to resonate about them doing so. It's not like if Mr Moose would say to Mrs Moose "Say, how about not getting any more kids for a while? I think we are upsetting the balance of nature when we eat all these trees and stuff."
    Nope, they just keep on eating,breeding and then any excessive moose dies from sickness and starvation.
    Nature is pretty harsh in that aspect.
    We on the other hand are like the only ones who actually might get away with it due to our ability to go find more food/minerals/habitats even on other planets.

    It's nether good nor evil, it's just us.

    I do however think I'll drop from this discussion now, as it might turn into something not unlike what used to be found in the Enhanced forum and it closed for a reason

    I'll leave the important questions in favour for little plastic men once again. Oh, sweet escapism embrace me and let your bosom shelter me from the hard winds of reality.

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