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As an American, I was wondering what it was like for you guys overseas. Our news stations are focused more on airtraffic, however they did mention that the ash has blown over portions of Europe. I was curious what it's like on your end- I'm sure there are more concerns than just cancelled vacations.
granted i'm on this side of the pond as well, but the keep in mind that eventually, we're going to feel the effects of this event here as well...
for now, our friends on across the pond will have a chance to see some very alluring and absolutely stunning sunsets! the result of all the sulpher and particulate hitting the upper atmosphere.
but depending on how much ash the volcano continues to produce, and how the jet streem carries it, the air quality will begin to suffer badly as volcanic ash is a messy cocktail of pretty much everything you'd want to steer clear of! it will basically be a very strong smell of rotten eggs - which is the sulpher dioxide. anyone with breathing problems and/or underlying health concerns may be forced to stay indoors for a bit untill the air begins to clear up.
of corse, there has already been some light ashfall now, which presents a huge problem... volcanic ash is still rock afterall! if you inhale ash, the fine pumice will mix with the water in your body and begin to collect on your lungs and in your airway. eventually you will suffocate and drown on what is essencially liquid cement!
the bigger concer however; it only takes less than an inch of ash accumulation to ruin crops and render them unusable... a bit more, and the soil has had it for some time too, so there goes any farmland!
over here, we'll feel the effects within a few months; our overall temps will lower as the ash spreads into the upper stratoshpere and gives us a stunted growing season... areas that never see such prolonged cooling trends could be in for a huge shock! (not that i'd mind a much cooler 6-8 months, since i missed skating on the ponds this past winter!)
hopefully there's not much left of this event and it'll all be over within a few more days at most.
*** reading over the lastest reports from Icelandic/North American scientists who are keeping a close watch on the volcano, this eruption could last for months
not good news at all... so far the main plume has only topped 6.7Km - not that worrisome overall. but if this main eruption continues, (or if we have yet to see the 'big event'), we could see effects similar to what mount pinatubo caused through late 1990-1992...***
just be thankfull that it's not say, Yellowstone that's decided to have a go! we're all fethed when it goes...
Last edited by experiment 626; April 17th, 2010 at 15:54.
Hey, yeah I'm in the U.k, The ash cloud is around 30km up and is pretty diffused up there. You cannot see it from the ground at all.
It can't sink lower because (for once) we're enjoying a hot spell - The warm air keeps rising pushing the cloud upwards. Apparently if it DID sink on top of us, the worst that would happen would probably be a strong smell of sulphur (bad eggs) until it broke up.
On the topic of the sunsets/moons, its pretty cool. The sun at sunset is much more orange than normal and looks stunning. The moon was yellow last night and the night before (very cool) and apparently there's a chance of us getting a real life blue moon from the ash's effects! Its where the phrase "Once in a blue moon" comes from and according to records the last blue moon was in 1887. So its pretty rare
Disruption to air traffic sucks, but seeing as I don't know anyone coming into or going out of the U.K I just sit back and enjoy the sunset/coloured moon
Southern UK has had a light dusting over the area. It had reached the Thames Valley by yesterday afternoon. Glad I did not wash the car yesterday!
The common useage of the phrase "Once in a Blue Moon" is different to lewbot's explanation (which is also valid) as this linked newspaper article reports. Not that I usually read the Daily Mail but is has some good photos of the moon too.
"The nature of Mon Keigh was irrepressible!"
Not that it affects me directly, but my sister is hoping that the flights get back up and running asap, you see, she's booked for a UK tour starting with the plane leaving on Tuesday night. If the flights don't start up again, she's going to be very very pissed....rescheduling is probably possible, but still annoying as hell.
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@mpdscott Airports are currently closed until 7am on monday GMT. it's not looking great for your sister
The ash cload is affecting all of europe quite heavily. It is not going down to ground level however, which is nice, and poses no health risks what so ever at the moment. However, there is evidance that the ash cload is now not affecting the planes, but the evidance hasn't been fully evaluated and analised yet...
Here in Norway we are feeling the effects of cooling already. I live on the west coast where the Gulf stream keeps us warm, but we've just had a small dump of snow! in the Middle of Spring!
Also my relatives were meant to be travelling to Riga in Latvia and the Netherlands... This seems to not be an option any more with all other forms of transport now completely booked.
What I am worried about is two things with the situation.
1st. The Ash in the air will need to fall somewhere, it can't just stay up there indeffinatly.
2nd. Emergancy food and medical supplies are now limited. Medicine and drugs that need to be transported quickly and efficiantly to doctors and Hostpitals is now greatly limited because the only way of fast transport (Aviation) is now non-existant.
Does anyone know how short-lived products such as milk and fruit/vegetable products are transported?
Then of course, there are some funny jokes about the whole situation going around right nowDear colleges
My father called me yesterday and asked me to apologize on behalf of Iceland
to people in Norway (especially northern Norway) and inform them that there
were some mistakes due to miscalculations. The volcanic ash was only meant
for UK and the Nederland's.
ElvarEnjoyBritain: WTF Iceland?!? Why did you send us volcanic ash ? Our airspace has
Iceland: What ? It's what you asked for isn't it ?
Britain: NO! Cash! Cash you dyslexic f***. CASH!
To the British and Dutch Governments: There is no C in the Icelandic
alphabet, so when you ask for Cash, all you get is Ash...
and yes, i've heard about the seriousness of the medical issues! anyone waiting for an organ transplant for example might not make it if their condition is already serious
watching the reports last night, the scientists are hoping to make a pass over the volcano today and see just how much of the glacier is left. if it's mainly gone, then the worst of the issues with the ash cloud should begin to abait. (as the glacier is helping to feed the amount of ash being produced!)
but if there's still a good deal of the glacier left, then the volcano will likely continue to produce a good amount of ash.
I came back to england from america on the day that the ash cloud was there.
We were the only plane to come back so we were Very lucky. The pilot didn't even tell us and I was already terrified since he stalled it reversing out of the airport and the overhead console (with the lights, aircon and buttons) fell of at take-off. I surprised I'm even alive right now!!!
I trufully think that the danger is being over-estimated. and the overhead console + technical problems in America would have no connection with the ash.
In History every single time a plane has flown through an ash cloud the plane didn't crash and everyone survived...
Last edited by Hive Fleet Ruina; April 18th, 2010 at 17:05.