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If you read my posts in the off topic or non gaming dicussion areas about music, you will have noticed I am a Tupac fan.
I also nearly always mention his 'death'. I found this on a Tupac fan site. Enjoy the speculation. Some seems to be that some people are reading into stuff far too much. Some is plain freaky.
Is Tupac Alive?
Most fans (over 83% in a recent survey) still hold on to the belief that Tupac Shakur may still be alive. There are many suspicious details about his departure that contribute to this.
The uncontested facts:
After leaving the Tyson fight on Saturday September 7, 1996, Tupac was alledgedly shot 5 times. He lived through the shooting and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was pronounced dead on Friday September 13, 1996.
The suspicious facts:
Friday the 13th is a very suspicious day.
There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.
In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.
The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the executive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.
The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released only a few days after his death. "I ain't Mad at Cha" is track 13 on the album All Eyes On Me. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven. In the video, Tupac was shot after leaving a theater with a friend, which is very similar to how he was shot in real life.
Interestingly, Tupac dies in his last video released under the name "2Pac". His new video "Toss It Up" from the new album was released under the name "Makaveli". The second video to be released by the name Makaveli is "To Live and Die in L.A." But how could they shoot the second video when he is "dead". Was the video really shot 4 months before his death, back in August of '96?
In the video "Hail Mary" released under the name Makaveli, there is a gravestone that says Makaveli. But the gravestone is cracked and there is a hole right in front of it, inferring that Makaveli rose from the dead.
A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle. The shooting made Snoop appear more "real" and showed his fans that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop was signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.
In December '96, Tupac's new album went platinum. In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)
Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.
Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Why did he remove it at a very public event like a Tyson fight?
In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly cremated the day after he "died"? And since when do they cremate someone the day after death in a murder case?
Tupac's alias is Makaveli. Though the spelling is different, Machiavelli was a 16th century italian philosopher who advocated the staging of one's death in order to evade one's enemies and gain power. In Machiavelli's book Discourses Upon the First Ten Books of Titus Livy, in Book 2 Chapter XIII he says "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to deceive". This is Machiavelli's main idea and is the connection between Tupac and the writings of Machiavelli.
Tupac studied Machiavelli in depth while in prision was a fan and had read his books several times. Perhaps Tupac is taking his advice. Machiaveli wrote two books before his death. Look at what the All Eyez on Me disks are called.. Machiavelli's books were called, "Book 1," and, "Book 2." The CD's of, "All Eyez On Me," are entitled the same
One of Machiavelli's books is, "Discourses Upon The First Ten Books Of Titus Livy," which it's claimed Tupac read in jail. In Book 2, Chapter XIII He says, "a prince who wishes to achieve great things must learn to decieve..." This is very similar to verses in some of Tupac's songs.
Some say that Tupac modified the Machiavelli name because if you rearrange the letters, they spell, "Am Alive," or, "I Am Alive."
The title of the new album by Makaveli (Tupac) is The 7 Day Theory. He was shot on September 7th; and survived on the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and"died" the 13th. Hence the title The 7 Day Theory.
Tupac's album All Eyes on Me was released on Feb.13, 1996. Tupac "died" on Sept.13, 1996. It is quite a coincidence that the two dates are exactly 7 months apart.
Tupac officially died at 43 PM. 4+3 = 7 Also he "died" at an age of 25 years. 2+5 = 7. It seems as if seven is Tupac's number.
< There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Wouldn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"? The only thing mentioned is "EXIT TUPAC ENTER MAKAVELI".
The executive producer of The 7 Day Theory , as listed in the CD booklet of the album, is Simon (who is a previously unknown producer in the rap music industry). In the bible, Simon was an apostle of Jesus. Simon was one of the first witnesses of the Resurrection listed by Saint Paul (I Cor. 15: 5). The Outlawz have confirmed Simon is a reference to Suge Knight who was with Tupac the night of the shooting.
In Richie Rich's album Seasoned Veteran, which was released on the same day as The 7 Day Theory, on the song "N*ggas Done Changed" which is a duet with Tupac, Tupac says the following lyrics: "I've been shot and murdered, can't tell you how it happened word for word / but best believe that n*ggas' gonna get what they deserve." This phrase implies that Tupac knows he will be dead when Richie Rich's album is released.
In Makaveli's (Tupac's) song "White Man's World" on album The 7 Day Theory, he says "We ain't never gonna walk off this planet unless ya'll choose to." Did he choose to walk off the planet by faking his death?
In Tupac's song "Ambitionz az a Ridah" on the album All Eyes On Me, he says "Blast me but they didn't finish, didn't diminish my powers so now I'm back to be a muthaf*ckin' menace, they cowards thats why they tried to set me up, had b*tch *ss n*ggas on my team so indeed they wet me up, BUT I'M BACK REINCARNATED." This implies that Tupac is reincarnated as Makaveli.
Tupac "died" in Las Vegas which is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.
The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?
There's a small Black community on the North side of town.. This strip is only about 8 blocks long.. If the attackers were Black.. Where did they go? Where did they hide?
The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of Tupac's boys, many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witnesses...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not, especially right after a heavyweight fight?
The cover of Tupac's album Makaveli has him looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a resurrection?
Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with the Tupac shooting?
There were no ballistic tests in the murder case... At least we haven't heard about them....
Tupac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did Tupac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?
Suge said he drove Tupac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was Tupac hit?
Tupac had completed 2 movies and 3 LPâ€™s that have were to be released.. With so many people upset about Tupac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash...
There is a 72 million dollar life insurance policy on him which has yet to be cashed. No legal actions could be taken against him as long as it isnâ€™t cashed.
The video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death ....
The memorial services that were open to the public were canceled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta...
In addition to number 19, Tupac said in his song "Life goes on" from his "All Eyez on Me" CD, that when he died he wanted "every rapper" to rap at his funeral, etc. Why didn't Death Row fulfill his death wish?
In a 1994 interview with Tupac, he said before he went to prison that if he was ever sent to prison when he came out he would be worse than before. He was. He also said when he came out it would be like he was reborn. Was he speaking literally? He already died and he was worse when he came out of jail, plus Tupac switched his rapping name from 2 Pac to Makaveli, that could be considered a rebirth, all that's left is a physical rebirth (A sighting) and so far he's already completed more than half of this prophecy.
Suge Knight and Tupac are the only two music industry people on that high a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death...
People close to Death Row and relatives of other famous rappers have speculated to me and others about the shooting being staged.
Why wouldnâ€™t a company as powerful and rich as Death Row Records not put up a reward to find the killers?
Other possible clues are contained in the new album. It is called â€œThe Don Killuminati: The 7 day theoryâ€? which is still a mystery in definition. Inside the cover, it reads â€œExit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveliâ€? as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born.
The cover of Makaveli DK 7 Day Theory holds many hidden icons, and references Marketing Hype<
The only witness who was going to step up and I.D. the shooter was Kadafi (Yafeu Fula) but he was shot a few months after Tupac.
In the first few seconds of the Makaveli song INTRO/BOMB FIRST, you can hear who is claimed to be Kadafi saying "Suge Shot Me"
Tupac always rapped and did videos on his death, and how his funeral would be. Why was he cremated?
In the song, " Life of An Outlaw," an Outlaw says, "All For the street fame on how to be managed, to plan ***** six months in advane to what we plotted, approved to go on swole, and now I got it..."
In the song, "Made Niggas," on the, "Gang Related," and, "Supercop," soundtracks, Tupac says, "***** 'em all who can't understand my plot to get richer...Outlaw to the grave, a mutha*****in' made nigga..."
In E-40's duet with Tupac called,"Million Dollar Spot," Tupac states, "Fans can't understand my ghetto slang, so I evade and plot and plan a life of better things..."
In the song, "Ain't Hard 2 Find," Tupac says, "I heard rumors that I died, murdered in cold blood, tramatized pictures of me in my final states, you know mama cried, but that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted..."
In Tupac's song, "No More Pain," he says, "A heart of a soldier with the brains to teach a whole nation..." Is he referring to Jesus or Machiavelli?
The video, "I Ain't Mad At Cha, " was released only days after Tupac's, "death." It depicts Tupac being gunned down much of the way he was really shot.
"I Ain't Mad At Cha," is also track number 13 on, "All Eyez On Me," and Tupac died on Friday the 13
In the, "I Ain't Mad At Cha," video, Tupac dies. In his next video, "Toss It Up," his name is Makaveli.
In the, "Hail Mary," video, there is a gravestone that says, "Makaveli." It is cracked and there's a hole in front of it; this inplies that Makaveli rose from the dead. Marketing Hype
In the,"Smile," video with Scarface, Tupac is crucified...Later he falls and stands up and it appears to be a double. Still, is this another image of resurection? Why make people so suspicious? Marketing Hype
"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 1: " Now these money hungry bitches gettin' suspicious, started plott'n and planin' on schemes..."
"Ambitionz as a Ridah," Verse 3: "payoff tha block, evade tha cops, 'cause I know they comin' for me, I been hesitant to reappear been away for years now I'm back...my adversaries been reduced to tears...
"White Man's World," 3rd verse:"Time so tell me why, you changed choosing new direction, in a blink of an eye, my time away just made perfection... Did you think I'd die, not gonna cry ..."
"Life of an Outlaw", Verse 2:"Who should I call when I'm shot and bleedin, indeed the possibility has part a chase in cream, dope got me hatin' fiends. Scheme wit my team, just a chosen few."
"Blasphemy", Verse 2:"I'm contemplating plots, wondering which door to go, brotha getting shot, coming back resurrected, it's just that raw *****, nigga check it..."
Did Bone Thugs N Harmony play a role in helping Tupac fake his death? In the, "Thug Luv," song, right before Tupac starts rapping, Bizzy can be heard in the background saying, "He's alive, he's alive, he's alive..." Marketing Hype
Machiavelli's book, "the Art of War," is also the name of Bone's new album. Marketing Hype
In the movie, "Gridlock'd," when Tupac and Roth are in the diner and they glance up at the menu, all the L's are upside down 7's.
In the movie, "Gang Related," Tupac and Belushi wait in room 7, and Tupac's badge number is 115; 1+1+5=7.
The cross on Tupac's back says, "Exodus 16:31." , The verse itself seems to have little meaning, but read this verse, found right above it:, "So the people rested on the seventh day." All of Exodus 16 deals with the 7 Dayz.
The song in which Tupac says he's alive, "Hold Ya Head," on the Makaveli CD, before Tupac begins rapping, a voice says, "Can you see him?" Another voice replies, "I see him." Then Tupac softly says, "I'm alive..."
Why have Suge Knight and the rest of his entourage been so uncooperative with police in solving the murder?
Since his death, there have been numerous reports of Tupac sightings.
EDIT: I now realise that some facts are repeated. This is because the website from which it is from, obviously did not check the two pages. Sorry if this was an inconvienience.
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When I say jump you don't ask me 'How high?' maggot! You jump!
Wow. Looks like a lot of thought went into that.
But, until we see concrete proof that he's alive, which I don't think we've seen, I'm going to continue to believe he's dead. I guess I'm one of the 17% of Tupac fans who thinks he's dead.
I'm in that 17% as well.This is just plain sad,almost as sad as all those pathetic wastes of skin cells that live around Graceland trying to catch a glimpse of Elvis.He and Tupac are DEAD.As in deceased,no longer among the living.People die,it happens all the time,deal with it and move on.
i pretty sure hes dead, i doubt anyone would want to stay in doors for the whole time he was proclaimed dead
I'm the 0.1% that arn't quite sure. But for all intents and purposes he's gone. Some of it does seem slightly suspicious but the '7 day theory' seems like rubbish to me. Also that bit with the numbers, almost as daft as the bible code.
Sighting That to me screams Photoshop
If he came back, well here's 8 years tax to pay off.
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When I say jump you don't ask me 'How high?' maggot! You jump!
I have seen his morgue photos and he is one dead - one dead person. yes, thats what I was going to say.
â€œCry â€˜Havocâ€™ and let slip the dogs of war!â€? - Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene I
I'm personally not a Tupac fan.
I don't know all the facts or even the greater story of his 'death' but I would suggest this sort of thought process:
He sang often about gangland violence, gangsterish goings on and that general way of life.
He then died in a gangland shooting (I think) and so it seems obvious that there will be parallels with some of the things he sang.
If there were any strange goings on or odd parallels perhaps the killers had a similar sense of the dramatic that a lot of people have and lived a similar sort of lifestyle that demanded certain means of doing things?
I'm dubious about it really, it sounds a lot like conspiracy theories to me and fairly tenuous ones too. As someone once said (and if anyone could give me an attributation for this it would be appreciated) "the Truth is out there - but lies are inside your head.."
If someone went through all of the details without bias and pointed out the aspects of the story that don't suggest his death was staged - and I'm sure there are quite a few- rather than just pointing out coincidences I would perhaps be able to make a judgement on the case.
At the end of the day though, he could turn out to be not dead after all right now and I probably wouldn't care one way or the other so I guess I'm not the best person to be talking to about it. I wonder what Tupac would think of that - alive or dead most people don't even credit his existence - sad but entirely true for most people I'm afraid.
Not really. He just sung about what was around him, sometimes he sung about gang violence, but I'd say it wasn't often at all.He sang often about gangland violence, gangsterish goings on and that general way of life.
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i am a big tupac fan ( listning to hit'em up at the mo ) and i am to finding it hard to let him go , but he was supposed to of already of come back in 2003 , he didnt so i left it . he would be one of the richest people in the world if he came back now so i mean , whats holding him back ? so ill just leave it at this
R . I . P Tupac amaru Shakur
1971 - 1996
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