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I was browsing other threads recently and came across references to "the higher minded members of LO" and I encountered one recently that could actually answer a question I had been kicking around in my head for a few days as to the owner of a certain quote. (thanks Nightmare Creature, remembering Voltaire's name was driving me batty)
These incidences sparked a question in my mind that ultimately has no right answer and arguably has no wrong answer.
Whom do you believe to be the most influential thinker (or artisan for that matter as their works can be said to influence thinking) in human history?
I won't just limit it to those responses though. Poets, writers, philosopher, scientists, there are a plethora to choose from.
Maybe it would be better if this were a topic about the 'Top 5' influential thinkers of all time so lets make it that instead.
So rev up your grey matter LO members and lets see what you got:
Who do you believe to be the 'Top 5' intellectual influences on mankind.
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ps> I will reserve my answers until this thread shows actual life; if that ever happens. not a cop out, just a priveledge I reserve for myself.
Edit> Feel free to give snippets of description for your choices, while this isn't necessary it does give insight as to your mindset and reasoning.
influential thinkers huh?
1. einstein. what can i say, i love the stuff he knew
2. maynerd james keenan. comeon, we're all thinking it, he's just saying it!
3. galaleo<--sp? the man re-wrote the concept of space, someday there will be new breakthrough's as substancial as his discovery's.
4. steven hawkings. r.i.p.
5. hitler. on a world scale hitler has most likly had the biggest influence on civilization of all of them, i mean he allmost successfully wiped out an intire race. if that don't cause ripples in the fabric of history i don't know what will.
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1) Jesus of Nazereth : . Whether or not you capitalize believe in the religion or not, the single most influential person in history, bar none. It has nothing to do with agreeing with his religious doctrines, for no one can contest that his life and his views have been at the forefront of our civilization.
2) Plato - Sure, Socrates gets all of the credit, but Socrates never wrote. Keep in mind, the only picture we have of Socrates is through Plato's writings (specifically, the Dialogues). The Republic is still a guiding force in the formation of government.
3) Sir Isaac Newton : While Einstein disproved or augmented many of his theories, Newton is still the king of scientific reason and thought. Thus, most of the physics that we learn in school is still Newtonian.
4) Einstein - Three simple words: Theory of Relativity. In one fell swoop, tied mass (matter) to energy. If he wrote nothing else, he would still be at this spot.
5) Leonardo Da Vinci - the living embodiement of the Renaissance. Most influential artist of all time.
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Well depends really on your loaction, in Ameriac the Presidents may spring to mind.
Great thinkers of the last 300 years would be nothing if it wasn't for Plato, Socrates, Aristotle and many other ancient figures.
Though some of their ideas may have been wrong,they opened new areas of thinking. Also some of their ideas were right! They got things that many people ignored for hundreds of years and which we now know to be true. Examples are the atom.
Jesus almost definately existed in some form or other, even if he was not the son of God.
But I'm also goin to put Isaac Asimov into the mix.
He has written some of the best sci-fi ever. His works are the influence for games such as Warhammer 40k and some of the stories show flaws in human nature and how the world is going on.
Also he manages to make complex scientific ideas easy to understand, even me a 14 year old could understand what he was meant when he wrote about 0 gravity fields.
If you only read one book of his go for Robot Dreams. This collection of short stories is amazing. Multivac is actually a very viable creation in the future and he also has a nice idea on God.
Not 5 but I think they are important people
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2. Confucious (hope that's spelt correctly)
3. Leonardo Da Vinci
5. John Maynard Keynes
Me - I have influenced every decision I have made in my entire life
Sir Isaac Newton - The theory of gravity applies to just about everything in the universe, if only they could combine it with relativity to come up with that damned elusuve Grand Unified Theory.
Archimedes - Jolly clever greek chap
Alexander the Great - Had a great thought about taking over the known world, then did it while philosiphising (sp?)
The un-named genius that discovered that most of the ingredients in bread can be rearranged to become beer, we should honour him with every pint drunk.
Albert Einstein - Anyone that is so clever he has to invent his own kind of maths to explain quantum theory and relativity must be cool.
Professor Stephen Hawking (and Roger Pemrose) for prodding at the fabric of the universe, whether it wanted him to or not.
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1. Christopher Columbus - discovered america
2. Einstien - theory of relativity, and many other achievements
3. Ernest Rutherford - split the atom
4. Sir Isack Newton - theory of gravity
5. Leonardo Da Vinci - possibly smartest person alive at the time
Sir Isaac Newton
Charles Darwin (come on guys!!! I can't beleive you forgot this guy!
Plato (although really the whole ancient greek philosopher crowd)
Marx (don't get much more infulential that this guy, even if it was indirectly)
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Jesus (come on he got billions of people to beleave he is the son of god)
Adolf Hitler (like pointed out before convinced a country they were better than anyone else and almost destroyed an entire race of people)
Games Workshop (Brainwashed untold amounts of people to buying little pices of plastic for very high prices)
The Emporer (the same people who are brainwashed by games workshop also beleave this man is a living god)
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These are mine, (no paticular order)
1. Napoleon, he definitly was a huge influence on the world. He helped bring about nationalism, seperation of church and state, more education for people, and much more. He was the man to finally cut any strings tying Europe to the feudal ages.
2. Any Philosophes, Rosseau, Montisquie, Voltaire, Diderot, they all helped change thought and truly helped to bring about equality for all people.
3. Jesus, he's still a large influence on many people today
4. Hitler and Joseph Stalin, two men that will remain infamous who were influenced by Napoleon, truly shaped a face of evil and world super powers.
5. The Founding Fathers
There are many more though, Martin Luther, Copernicus, there are just so many people that helped shape our thought today.
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