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Exactly. What are they? I need a list of them shortly, and the problem is that the last time I have red the book was, like, 5 or 6 years back (and I don't have the time for it now).
Can any of you help me on this subject?
One of the biggest in my mind was the lack of Tom Bombadil (sp?) and his wife. This also meant that they skipped the wraith's tomb. If you don't remember: Tom met the halflings and took them home and they met his wife. He briefly explained that he was one with the world and so was his wife, sort of like a mother and father nature type deal (if I remember right). They were neutral to the war and all. He taught them a song to call him and they used it with the wraiths to get away from the wraiths.
The edited version of the movie also really cut down on the parts with Galadriel. For instance she gave them stuff, which is in the full version, but it was cut out for time reasons in the reg. movie.
his name is glorfindell
the hobbits move out of bag end and move some where before they leave
also farmer magget takes the hobbits to the ford where they are attacked by the ringwraigths
Yes people i know that my spelling and punctuation is awful but I am product of British teaching pollicies so what can I do about it?
In the book Anduril was reforged from the shards of Narsil at Rivendell and given straight to Aragorn (who had been carrying the shards with him). In the film Elrond turns up in the last film to give him the sword. In fact if memory serves me correctly Boromir is shouting ANDURIL ANDURIL as he gets brutally chopped up by orcs, could't do it in the film as Aragorn didn't have the sword.
Also on Weathertop Aragorn just comes up and gives the hobbits some shortswords, in the book they get the swords from the barrow where the encounter the barrow wights. The actual short swords the got in the book were powerful magical swords from Numenor, which is why the magical bindings around the Nazgul lord were broken when Merry stabbed him behind the knee making it possible for Eowyns not very magic sword to kill him.
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Well, one of the most grating deviations from the book is the charecter of Arwen Evenstar, who replaces the elf lord Glorfindal in escorting Aragorn and the hobbits from Weathertop to the ford and on to Rivendell.
Peter Jackson obviously bowed to some politically correct doctrine in requiring a female fighter in the first film of the trilogy (Eowyn takes over this role in films 2 and 3).
Also, several of the set pieces of suspense are glamourised or jazzed up (dumbed down in my humble opinion). The watcher in the deep does not grab Frodo and wave him around, there is no Lurtz as the chief of Sarumans Orcs, the Orcs are not mentioned as growing in sacs, Sam is physically smaller than Frodo, Frodo does not drop the Ring at any point and Boromir does not pick up and hand it back.
And don't get me started on the debacle of the Ents in part two...
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the first film was actually quite faithful to the book more so than the other two in my opinion despite the glaring lack of tom bombadabil and farmer maggot, also frodo, sam and pippins meeting with the elves (who save them from the ringwraith the first time round) as they are moving to buckland.
film two was the one i had the biggest gripe against.
HALDIR DYING AT HELMS DEEP.
the elves didnt even fight at helms deep.
WELL SAID, NO MORE SQUATS THEY ARE DEAD GET OVER ITOriginally Posted by artificer
I have the complete set of regular lotr movies, (watched over 98 times) and the full versions, the full versions really fill in the connect the dots in the movie. Like when the ents are attacking orthanc, other ents go to helms deep to kill the fleeing orcs.
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You guys are all missing the three biggest.
1.) The scouring of the Shire. Saruman didn't die, he went to teh shire to cause some major trouble.
2.) Wizards don't actually have visable magic, they fight by a battle of wills, which has nothing to do with flinging your opponent accross the room or shooting fireballs around.
3.) The Army of the dead. They didn't actually kill orks, or even fight at Minas Tirith. They just scared the sh*t out of everybody. They did this up and down the coast, freeing massive amounts of slaves and ralling thousands of men to take the corsair ships to Minas Tirith.
Other minors (many have been pointed out.)
4.) the swords at weathertop
6.) Wargs never attacked the King's refugees
7.) Tom Bombadil (they are called barrow wights)
8.) Moving away from the shire
9.) Merry and Pippen were in it for the whole ride.
10.) The elves at helms deep, and the reason they did the last ditch attack was because they heard the horns of Rohan.
11.) The ents actually decided to fight
12.) They're was a last ditch atempt to attack Mordor, but it was a bit more hopeful than it looked it the movie, and the orks ambushed them, they weren't calmly waiting to be surrounded.
13.) Faramir never took the hobbits to osgeliath
14.) Aragorn had the sword the whole time.
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Poor old Glorfindel even got left out of the trippy 70's cartoon version. In that one they changed him to Leogolas (who had short hair and tights.)Originally Posted by khazad varn
If I remember the Silmarillion properly Glorfindel was pretty bad arse, he killed a Balrog in hand to hand combat. That was back when elf lords were tough.