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Just wanted to clarify...earlier I started a thread about good places to find lunch in the NoVa part of the U.S. I received a couple of replies but nothing usefull. (finally went with the sandwich)
Anyway, here is the thing the moderator locked the forum and left a message that wasn't rude or anything, just, ..snotty.
I was at games workshop the other day and the little nerd behind the counter was....snotty.
( "plastic glue doesn't work on metal models" and " if you need squigs you need herders too")
Is this a trend in wargaming? maybe I am in the wrong hobby?
I was just trying to make conversation and have a little fun...isn't that why we are all here?
Anyway, for all the snotty, uptight, WAY to serious people. Try to lighten up just a little, hunh?
and the relavence of the lunch thread is that it was inspired by the "what is cheese" thread.
hope this is posted in the right place....
Reports about general "retardedness" at GW stores seem to common but personally I haven't had many problems, probably cos I know what i want so I'm in and out, no questions asked.
Some of the guys are helpful, one guy went through with me exactly how to convert the plastic Dreadnuaght arm to hold a Devastator's plasma cannon, and it looks awesome.
Although, when I got back into 40K after 4rd Ed came out, I went with my friend to one of the "beginner" things where they take you through the rules. The guy got quite angry when I didn't bring any troops, even more so when I ignored him and had a (much more enjoyable) chat with a kid about his Tau army.
-addition- my friend hasn't played since 2nd Edition, and they guy giving the demo and no clue at all what Overwatch and Sustained Fire was.
The "Plastic glue doesn;t work on metal models." one is good though. XD
- Watch this space.
I have seen a few guys running demo games, and all they really seem to want to do is crush an ignorant newbie. This will encourage new players in our hobbies?
Fortunately this is the exception.
I have run many demo games (particularly for battletech) and I usually feed the new kids information gradually. As they get a grasp on one aspect, I add another. By the end of the demo, almost always, the new player is able to make good reasonable moves, calculate his own to-hit number, allocate damage, etc etc, and ask questions of specifics rather than generalities. Its absolutely great to see the lights come on in their eyes, and their eagerness as they realize that they are figuring the game out own their own, and not having to have someone alweays tell them what they need to hit, wound, save, etc.
Now, to me, that is a much more satisfying feeling than beating up on the unskilled.
"The sword that takes life gives life."
I think alot of people (particularly males but sometimes females too) find it extremely difficult to resist the urge to feel superior to others when they happen to have superior knowledge. They forget that the fact that they know something better than someone else is nothing to take pride in, as just about anyone can learn anything as easily as anyone else given the time and the inclination.
Superior knowledge merely indicates that the person you're talking to has spent their time doing other things, which is perfectly acceptable and means they'll most likely be better than you at something.
As for snootiness, I have noticed over the years that snootiness in general seems to appear most frequently among those who lack social skills. Snooty people mistakenly believe that people respect knowledge and correctness above all else, and will generally assume that if they prove you wrong you will from that moment forth respect them.
This is not the case. It is extremely hard to prove someone wrong about something without losing their respect and having them accuse you of snootiness! It takes great gentleness and sensitivity to the moods of others which many who spend their time reading books and playing computer games lack, simply due to lack of experience. Being male and/or young does nothing to help the situation. Neither of those demographics are reknowned for their sensitivity.
So yeah I have met alot of snootiness in this hobby, and I would even generalize and say that "geeks"of any kind are full of the stuff. But you meet snooty people everywhere, and I have found that they will quickly back off if you make it clear to them that their knowing alot about an imaginary future war and a bunch of toys (or whatever it is they are being snooty about) doesn't impress you in the slightest. A cool, uncaring attitude usually works for me against snootiness. If they are really bad you can smirk at them and looksurprised when they say something particularly nerdy, as if to say "geez, I just want to have a bit of fun mate, I don't want this to be my whole life like it is for you (loser)." That tends to get them treating you like a human being again.
Yeah I've noticed the snootiness myself, as to that comment. I look for players
who have sportsmanship. I avoid the arrogant ones, even if they know the rules.
Having sportsmanship in this game can make it a hundred times funner if they dont
know the rules, it'll be a learning experience, which it usually is.
-HONORABLE MENTIONS IN BLITZKRIEG PAINTING COMP-
"THAT I.G. GUY WITH THAT OVERDEVELOPED TRIGGER FINGER"
There are some rally faggish people at Woden GW. The Manager is really cool (funny, good, and nice) put his minions are crap. One guy, though nice, is always trying to seel me stuff. I wne't ot get Codex: Cityfight for my bro's Brithday (for the terrain tips), and he tried to get me to but all the moddeling books!
Anoth guys is just a realy Wang. I came to the store and asked if they had any Assasins. He replied "We don't seel Assassins. People who collect them suck, and are gay." And then laughed a really nerdy, wankerish, evil laugh. He too told me that "Plastic glue doesn't work with metal models." He also told me that metal glue doesn't work with plastics! Ahhh, What are you gonna do?
Last edited by Lord Yossanrion; May 26th, 2005 at 07:53.
At the buneker I play at we're all pretty close. But some times you get the odd person who is playing for the superior feeling of knowing the game over having fun. Theres a bunch of us down there who are really freindly and joke around quite alot. But you always have those kids who want evere around them to feel bad. The worst part is when you get stuck with that kid and almost fall asleep during a game(that er...never...happaned...)
I enjoy those games where both you and your opponent cheer for any good dice roll (you've all had one of those games)
...Originally Posted by shango
Posting a thread about where to find lunch on a wargaming forum is more than a somewhat irrelevant topic. Irrelevant topics count as spam. Spam is not allowed, and hence the moderator totally within his/her rights to lock it.
We dont keep you here. If you dont like the rules, go somewhere else.
"It fits like clothes made out of wasps!"
"This is our discussion board. Discuss everything non gaming related issues here!"
Just sayin' seems like a forum for irrelevence.
I have had my share of rules arguments, and been righ on most of them. Mostly fo them were over the GK allies rules.
What I don't like seeing is seeing someone trying to run a mass battle with a bunch of 12 year olds and a few older gamers, by older I mean 15ish. I can't beleive how many times during setup I had to say "His tyrannids are in my deployment zone. They are six inches away from me." This kid knew what to do with nids, and I think he was taking advantage of the moderator's flexibility. He seemed to have more knowledge of what he was doing.
Where's your Baritone Saxophone?