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Wow, I just received a -10 negative rep for an opinion that I had about the Euthenasia thread.
As I have just realized that I can't actually voice my opinion on the enhanced forum unless I belong to the leftist crowd, then I think it's time to bow out of this section of the forum entirely and stick to a topic that I came here for originally: GW games and Warhammer 40k.
Honestly, I'm Beleaguered from the high controversy topics that have recently been appearing there on a regular basis and since my opinions are not as valuable as the rest of the members opinions (Although my opinions are nowhere near as vehement as some peoples) I think I'll take a nice long break from this section of the board: forever.
There are many other forums out there for discussing such heated and highly debated topics as we seem to generate and if I feel the need to divulge my opinions, then I will take them to those boards. We all came here to discuss GW and their range of games and I'm going to permanently stick to those sections of the board.
If I have offended anyone, then I am truly sorry, but my opinions stand. Although many other peoples opinions have offended me greatly, especially opinions regarding religion, I refrain from telling them off with huge rep decreases because.... well, the Christian way is to turn the other cheek and show love where love was not shown to you.
Thank you all, and best wishes,
I am sorry that you feel hounded out of this forum because of your opinions Hourg1ass.
I am actually suprised that people give negative rep on the topics here in Enhanced. Because everyones reply to topics on this forum and especially this forum is based on your own opinion, I don't see why someone should "anti-rep" you for your opinion. Fair enough giving rep to people who's ideas and thoughts are the same as yours, "good comment I feel exactly the same" types of rep, but to give negative rep because someone dosn't think the same things as you seems sort of strange to me.
Anyways, sorry to see you leave man.
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You might feel it this way, but your opinion is still held high by other members, otherwise you wouldn't have those 4 stars. YOu are entiltled to your opinion, and you should make a it point of honour to point out what you feel is right, this part of the board is just about that.Originally Posted by H0urg1ass
I didn't see anything wrong with your post in thread, I think it was just misunderstood, wich is bound to happen somthimes, typing and oral skills are 2 seperate things.
And don't worry, you'll have plenty more occassions to get your points back ^_^
Having reread the euthanasia post, I'm utterly surprised that anyone would apply negative rep to any post there. My own feelings are such that the person applying negative rep should have at least a temporary ban from the enhanced forum. So it seems you were neg-repped simply for your opinion? I didn't see that you flamed anyone, nor that anyone flamed you.
Many of us have made heated comments, but we've all done so in the context of impassioned debate.
I hope you'll reconsider your self-imposed enhanced exile.
Damn it H0urg1ass! Don't you dare leave, not on my watch! You are a respected (perhaps the most) member in the Forum, and have been here for years. You're a peice of LO history. If it weren't for you I certainly wouldn't have had as much fun as I did on this site.
Who ever neg rep. you obiously had their reasons, but you've gotta respect that, even if they don't respect yours. Its happened before. In the Army Fluff section, I got neg. rep. for making a small joke, that wasn't even offensive. But I knew the majority of LOsers aren't like that, and so I stayed. And now I'm enhanced! I didn't agree with some of your opinions, but I didn't neg. rep you, becasue of the enourmous respect I have for you, and besides it would't be appropriate.
In short H0urg1ass, please stay! We want you to! Damn it stay! Don't go! :cry:
Wow, I never expected so many people to want to keep me around in the Enhanced forum. I'm a pretty opinionated guy and I think it shows too much in the Enhanced forums, but It makes me happy to hear that you fine people still like me. :w00t:
Anyhow, for the first time in 5 years I went out with a group of friends last night and got fairly trashed out in Ahn Jung Ree (That's a city in Korea). My buddies helped me back into my room and I laid on my bed recovering while watching Suspect Zero (Awesome movie).
Then I crawled over to my computer to check the forum and much to my dismay I had received the first negative rep I've ever had and I was a bit disappointed as it was personality conflict based negative rep.
I may have been a little hasty about dropping out of the Enhanced forum, but remember, I was having a hard time focusing on entire paragraphs at the time because of my inebriated state. In fact, I received positive rep from a different person and I actually thought that that person had negatively repped me too for about 5 minutes because I couldn't make heads or tails of his comments.
Anyhow, I don't hold any grudges or hard feelings against anything that anyone here on the Enhanced forums says. I am a Christian and my views are based in that dogma, however, Christianity also teaches that I shouldn't judge people because that's Gods job. Besides, I have enough flaws to keep me busy for the rest of my life without having to pick on other peoples flaws. (That won't stop me from picking on your flawed army lists though! )
Just so everyone knows, I still respect the member that negatively repped me and I don't want to get anyone angry at him. The funny thing is that he has +10 repped me before too, so I'm actually sitting on neutral rep with this individual now. :tongue:
Good to hear you're gonna stay. Good man.
If there's a lesson to be learnt: Drunken Nights + Negative Rep = feeling not so good.
Well, Hourglass, I do indeed hope you stick around in here. Discussions aren't the same without you, eh?
Many (and by many, I mean mostly all) of us probably disagree with lots of the reasons we receive negative rep. from eachother, but there's little we can do about it besides either patch things up (in the case of a joke taken the wrong way, apologize and point out the joke, etc.) or just respect the person and hope that they had good reasons.
It's sometimes just too difficult to tell a person's tone and sarcasm, etc. when it comes to the internet. With someone's voice, you can almost always tell. On the internet, there aren't that many people who can really tell. I mean, we all get the general feeling, but we're all going to miss things sometimes. It's just a part of life on the internet and I accept that, so when I receive a negative rep. I try to get in contact with the person who gave it to me.
For example, I received negative rep. for asking a second time the questions that I had asked to begin with, and the person who gave me the negative rep. simply thought that they had answered my questions, when in fact, their answers were completely different than what I wanted to know, so, I obviously thought it was just a silly reason to negative rep. me and I sent the person a PM, and I got a sincere apology in response, and all is well.
In the long run, you also have to look at it from this viewpoint: sure, reputation is a pretty spiffy part of the forum, but a single (or even a few) negative rep.'s aren't going to kill you. What do you really get for reputation points, beyond respect from your fellow members? Heck, some members have received my utmost respect and they're nearly brand new! You don't need reputation to earn someone's respect. The reputation comes in time - the respect can come at any instant.
Don't let things like a few silly negative rep. comments get you down. We're all here to enjoy online discussions, and I think by signing up here and posting in the Enhanced Forum especially, we should all agree to disagree, agreeably (as the quote states). We're all equal here, and always will be. We'll always have different views and perspectives, so we simply have to agree to respect one another - respect doesn't mean agreeing with someone 100%, but it is a tad silly to negative rep. someone for a personal opinion, unless that opinion is expressed in an insulting or just flatout horrible way, but then it turns from an opinion to .. well, an opinionated insult. Such as "Hourglass I think your views are wrong and you should die" or something like that. I don't want to see stuff like that posted, and I will negative rep. people who say things similar to that.
At the end of the day, I'm still proud to be a member of this community and I hope all of you are, too. Let's keep the ball rolling, everyone. ^_^
@ Lost Nemesis
As always, you show us that you are very worthy of your 3200+ post count.
I think that part of my overreaction was due to the fact that I had had entirely too much to drink last night and, honestly, this post probably should never have happened as I look a bit like a baby complaining about one single negative rep. Alas, those are the effects of alcohol and this is a good example to the rest of you to never drink and LO. :tongue:
Oh, don't worry, I'm not down on LO. Never have been and never will be. This is the best place online for me to voice all the things that I love and dislike about GW, so I'll probably never leave as long as my wife and I are still in the hobby.
Heck, even H0urg1ass Jr. might show up here one day to discuss his first army when he gets old enough to play.