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The Dark AngelOriginally Posted by Brother Damien
DARK Angel, with thine aching lust
To rid the world of penitence:
Malicious Angel, who still dost
My soul such subtile violence!
Because of thee, no thought, no thing,
Abides for me undesecrate:
Dark Angel, ever on the wing,
Who never reachest me too late!
When music sounds, then changest thou
Its silvery to a sultry fire:
Nor will thine envious heart allow
Delight untortured by desire.
Through thee, the gracious Muses turn,
To Furies, O mine Enemy!
And all the things of beauty burn
With flames of evil ecstasy.
Because of thee, the land of dreams
Becomes a gathering place of fears:
Until tormented slumber seems
One vehemence of useless tears.
When sunlight glows upon the flowers,
Or ripples down the dancing sea:
Thou, with thy troop of passionate powers,
Beleaguerest, bewilderest, me.
Within the breath of autumn woods,
Within the winter silences:
Thy venomous spirit stirs and broods,
O Master of impieties!
The ardour of red flame is thine,
And thine the steely soul of ice:
Thou poisonest the fair design
Of nature, with unfair device.
Apples of ashes, golden bright;
Waters of bitterness, how sweet!
O banquet of a foul delight,
Prepared by thee, dark Paraclete!
Thou art the whisper in the gloom,
The hinting tone, the haunting laugh:
Thou art the adorner of my tomb,
The minstrel of mine epitaph.
I fight thee, in the Holy Name!
Yet, what thou dost, is what God saith:
Tempter! should I escape thy flame,
Thou wilt have helped my soul from Death:
The second Death, that never dies,
That cannot die, when time is dead:
Live Death, wherein the lost soul cries,
Dark Angel, with thine aching lust!
Of two defeats, of two despairs:
Less dread, a change to drifting dust,
Than thine eternity of cares.
Do what thou wilt, thou shalt not so,
Dark Angel! triumph over me:
Lonely, unto the Lone I go;
Divine, to the Divinity.
Why does Brother Damien seem rather impulsive? He should tone down his tune a bit. We are all entitled to believe what we will. Negative reputation is not the point in this. As he is a devout religious person, a Christian one at that, I thought he would remember the fact that one should Love Thy Neighbour as Thyself. Perhaps I was wrong?
Anyway, what was this about?
Well it seems he wasn't content with insulting my lifestyle he had to go for my intellegence too.
Anyway the poem is esentially about repressed homosexual urges (yes there's entire essays on the subject) and naturally a source of insperation for GW (Dark Angels) so i commented on the irony of Damien having a Dark Angel for an avatar in light of his "views".
Hmmm... well, I can't quite say that that was the most diplomatic of things to do. There is always a time when it is better to keep silent than point something that might be of personal embarrassment to someone were it to be known. Although I believe he did not behave in the best of ways, I also believe that bringing up such a topic would not have been the best of ideas.
It has been made quite clear that the Dark Angels Space Marine Chapter and its Primarch Lion Elâ€™Jonson are in fact based on the author Lionel Johnson and his 19th century poem â€˜The Dark Angelâ€™, which is believed to be about Lionel Johnsonâ€™s anguish at his own homosexuality as he became a devout Catholic in his later years and saw his desire as a sin against God, an unholy temptation. From the connection to the 40k universe was of course created a joke about homosexuality being the Dark Angels' sinful secret rather than the whole Fallen issue. This seems to sit bad with Brother Darien, however, whom Iâ€™ve had similar debates with in the past.Originally Posted by Schmeag
As for the poem, I find itâ€™s beautiful but sad as it is filled with such self-loathing and shame over something that is today perceived as completely natural and valid desires by all but the most narrow-minded and xenophobic people.
Also, in regard to Brother Darienâ€™s PM to Shadows Coil, I note that he claims to have gained his views from valid research. Research in what, I wonder? Certainly not homosexuality, considering the claims about AIDS (which is a syndrome and therefore not contagious) being created and spread by homosexuals, and sexual orientation being a choice and not congenital. Hm.
"Girls are nice and cuddly on the outside, and freaky on the inside." ~ Lost Nemesis.
I always love this poem, the guy had it bad..
And yes, it is fun throwing this poem at dark angels players, commenting on their chapters giant secret, etc. But I think this post skirts dangerously close to picking on one guy for no real reason. We're aware the poem exists, and anyone whose looked at its background can tell you what it's about. The point has been prooved.
Nice poem. ^_^
Erm... evrything that has been said has been... What's wrong with Lesiban Vampires? ; )
Last edited by Lord Yossanrion; November 28th, 2005 at 23:11.
Only issue i'd take with a vampire as a partner would be the lack of body heat, would make those emotional cuddles a bit odd.Originally Posted by Lord Yossanrion
This being the case for male and female vampires. Well whatever floats your boat sailor
Ho ho ho.... aren't we funny, I had heard the DA are gay joke but no one explained it, where do you go with GW definetly took insperation for the Chapter Dark Angels from this.
Love thy neigbor indeed, Who said I hated my neighbor? But by what you all seem to htink love is, I don't and that's not what the Bible meant, lol. Haha, most people seem to think that throwing your against your own religion stuff bothers people like me, well FYI, it don't. It makes me laugh, because for the most part you all murder it's original intent. Opinions are opinions, You'll love what I said about them in the other thread.
BTW, I won't lie, I actually, thought the poem was rather well done. But where exactly does it say it's a gay poem? I have no doubt it is, but would one have else find that by researching the author?
Haha, Greph, pretending that being in Med school makes you smart eh? Since the way you do research, is try it first. well, I don't care. Also, If I wanted to I could go to a college in the US right now and start Med school, so don't think your so smart, research can be gained by reading, watching and... testing in some cases. You my lady, seem to think yourself above that, guess what, I'm so scared...... Grephaun thinks I'm stupid.... Oooh yeah zing, Im burned. Your opinion hurts me so much.....
The poem sit bad with me? Nah, I appreciate it in my own way. BTW go ahead, you can say stuff I do and like supports gays, fine, it's called ignore, and I don't care. I may not like it, (maybe somehow, you can convince me that "oh the DA are gay happies" Ahh, well "clears throat" I'll just be the "gay hunter fallen", lol )
If it makes you happy, and go ahead and qoute me on it. The guy had talent. Too bad he was gay... but wh ythe heck did he become catholic when he was gay????
Qui est Mortis? Lol, the rep... neggatized for something... lol that nobody payed attention too... Lol Goodbye all, BTW This is permanent goodbye so save some bandwidth mods delete this account :D :evil: :D :evil: :D