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    New Orleans

    Hey, I was just wondering. I don't want to bring up any bad memories or anything for anyone but how is New Orleans going?

    With typical media fickleness, I haven't heard a single word on the news about what's happening there since people started moving back. Obviously it's not a big story anymore now that the disaster is "over," and no-one is interested in reporting the clean up. Are there many people living there again? Is life getting back to normal, or is the devastation just too huge? Any members live there? (I think Bawdymonkey does.)

    When I was a very little kid they used to report on the war causing famine in Ethiopia, every night. One day everyone just got bored of hearing about it and they stopped reporting it. I was utterly outraged at about age 13 when I discovered it was still going exactly as it had been before but the media had just stopped reporting it and had moved onto Bosnia or whatever. That was the moment when I realized that a free press is capable of great evil as well as great good.

    So yeah... the media sucks. Don't really know the point of this except that maybe some American members can tell me how NO is going.


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    Rebuilding is continuing, with setbacks caused by the incopetence of certain government officials that hold power over this sort of thing.

    ...or at least thats what I hear...

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    I saw a documentary on new orleans yesterday.. It was quite shaking. 120000 out of 200000 homes have been destroyed, and the government is considering whether or not to rebuild the city. The problem with new orleans is, that the entire city is build on a pillow of sediments, that is slowly being flushed out in the ocean by the mississippi river, and geologists predict that the transgressing coast-line will have eaten away the entire area in 70-100 years. The flood itself was inevitable, and from now on events like that will only become more and more common in that area.

    What do you think is right? Spending billions of dollars rebuilding a doomed city, that will most likely sink to the bottom of the ocean before the re-building is even complete? Or face the facts and just abandon the city, knowing that it is doomed anyway? I saw some interviews with people from new orleans who insisted that their homes were rebuilt, but is that a typical example of people who doesnt know whats best for them? Personally I say that demolishing the rest of the city and building a new one somewhere safe is the best way, but it that too cold hearted?

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    As a Geographer I cant say I see it being worth rebuilding.

    It is a City with major dammage. Some of it is under sea level. Surrounding it is a River, a Lake and the Sea. Plus it is in an area that suffers Hurricanes.

    With "Enhanced" Global Warming, the magnitude and frequency of storm events is likely to increase. Why not build a new one 10 miles inland?

    Plus are insurance companies likely to want to insure property there, even if the people want to return?
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    Logically, abandoning New Orleans and building elsewhere would be the best plan.

    Politically, it would be suicide. No one in public office is likely to want their name next to something that consigns an entire city to its fate. Maybe they can soften the blow if they have to abandon, but no one is coming out of that smelling of roses.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rork
    Logically, abandoning New Orleans and building elsewhere would be the best plan.
    Wow, no offense guys, but you are all really missing the point.

    Since humanities creation it has always been 'Man Vs Nature' !

    That hasn't changed since we ascended to the summit of the food chain.

    It's in our nature to bang our heads against the walls of adversity despite what little gain we get, other than self satisfaction.

    It's what drove us to populate the entire planet (ok, maybe Antartica really should be left alone ), it's what drove us into space, it's what drove us to the moon, it's what drove us to create a space station in the harshest conditions under the most insane circumstances, it's why we contemplate a Mars colony. It's why we are who we are. Man vs. Nature!

    Logic be damned!

    New Orleans will be rebuilt 'despite' the obstacles!

    Does that make sense? Probably not.

    But it isn't anymore complicated than pride.
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    I found something in the British Press today.

    From the Daily Telegraph, 10th December 2005.

    "Official Inertia may yet finish off the survivors of New Orleans" by Harry Mount.

    Basicaly according to this article City Hall has come to a stand still. Ray Nagin has come up with some great policies like opening annother 7 Casino's, and a free wireless internet service.

    Some people are trying to rebuld but no one knows if/when any demolition will occur-whats the point in trying to fix your house if its going to have a bulldozer driven over it?

    Thats just a basic summary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wings of Doom
    Plus are insurance companies likely to want to insure property there, even if the people want to return?
    Flood insurance is underwritten by the United States governemnt using a community adjustment manual rate. Insurance companies sell the insurance but they bear no risk. The US government will not deny citizens the right to flood insurance so companies will continue to sell it to them. I would imagine that the actuaries will have to adjust the community factors in light of what has happened. However, as it is manually rated the entire population will fund more of that risk with slightly higher premiums.

    As far as the rebuilding of New Orleans, I am not sure about any of the politicans out there. It is my opinion an oversight board with Tzar abilites should be created, but it won't be and people will bicker over this issue for years.

    I do wish the people out there the best and hope that things develop better then I am predicting. If one thing can be said for rapent capitalism, New Orleans will be OK as long as the ports/wharfs/harbors and the levies surrounding the city are restored.
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    I have little doubt corporate New Orleans will be rebuilt.
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