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    LOTR, dead or alive?

    Love it or loathe it LOTR is here to stay for now.

    Recently here in the UK several newspapers have reported that GW are down from £7.7 million to £100,000. This is blamed on the interest and hype generated by the films, this raises several questions:-

    1) Is this just a trend in the Uk, or is the world at large getting tired of LOTR?
    2) Does this signal the demise of LOTR?
    3) If the demand drops will GW make it a specialist game or kill it completely?

    Any thoughts?, comments?


    (If this is in the wrong place then I am sorry)
    * edit* mods, can you move this to general hobby talk

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    Interesting topic.

    If it were anything else, I can only imagine that they would kill it - but being LoTR (which I love all things related to) I am sure they will produce it until it becomes completely a money put. It's a dream license for them (though with all things considered, it sounds like £100K is waaaaaay off base for a sales figure).

    LoTR has been an epic phenom for decades - since I've been online the past 12 years, there have been enormous fan followings just 'net based - the films have done nothing more than birth new fans the world over.

    No, I don't think anyone is tired of LoTR.

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    The 100k is the half year pre-tax profits.

    Also, I forgot to mention that shares have dropped 55.25p to 319 (at time of print at least), maybe investors can see that it's heading downhill? I don't know but it will almost certainly mean LOTR may be reduced in stature from a core game to a specialist.

    Also what about the licencing? how will this affect/be affected by this?

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    They probably have the rights to produce LoTR games for a 5-10 year deal in all, renewable at the master holder's discretion.

    With the new information you gave, it doesn't look good, considering how much GW probably had to shell out for this - and are probably still paying. Figure in licensing royalties (about £5 to £10 per unit), development costs, advertising, salaries for the production team, other royalties (for actor likenesses) and operation costs...

    Wooooooooooooboy.

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    Exactly, all those fears about how LOTR affected GW as a company are about to come true.
    I feel it will ned up being dead weight, I mean how many people play it? Lots of people probably do but at my local GW there 5 players tops, either way GW will probably not release anything new like campaign books or whatever in the near future.

    The short answer is with fantasy about to get its 7th ed and the tau on their way LOTR interest will plummet.

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    Good news on this!

    I wanted to find out what was up with LoTR, so I rang GW last night. They have made LoTR their 3rd core game, along with Warhammer and Warhammer 40K - they have the indefinate gaming rights and will continue to support and create new products for the line.

    They were not aware of any reports of it doing badly and thought that was pretty funny, since they'd just added it to the core line because of how well it is selling. :yes:

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    LoTR is a very good game.... Some of the Staff at GW Burton prefer it to WH.

    I play it as Harad.... I love those Oliphaunt - Sorry War Mumaks. To be honest with everyone, it was the first out of the three.... I have been a fan of LoTR, since I was 12 when I first read the book. Then when the films came out and me and some fanatical mates found GW and saw some LoTR stff. Fell in love.
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    Well wherever the newspapers get their information (note at least two papers reported this) they are being fed a lie. I know GW has made LoTR a core game, I just wondered if it would remain so.

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    If you actually look into GW's sales History.

    At the release of RotK, LotR outsold 40K
    Currently, LotR steadly outsells WHFB.

    LotR is here to stay ^_^

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