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As you may or may not know the X men stories use a lot of metaphoric reference to social outsiders- most notably racism and homophobia.
So hypotetically if there was a “cure” for homosexuality or for ethnic minorites, or even less general issues. Could you see a situation where you could receive an injection/ treatment to make you just like everyone else.
I’d be lying if I said I didn’t, a cure for dyslexia so I don’t have to deal with idiots who think it’s an imaginary condition or a treatment to remove the unsightly scars from my back. I’m also sick of people saying I look younger than I actually am based on my height and build… however that I wouldn’t change.
Would you take your “cure”? what would your limits for change be?
Finally how would you react to the existence of said “cure”?
This boils down to the idea that if everyone was the same the world would be a very boring place. So the answer is... no. I wouldn't take it. More the fool anyone who would. Who wants to be anything other than what they are and were created to be?
If someone wants to take said cure, thats there choice. I have no problem living with the defects in my body, though there are some who would rather be rid of the ones in their own. My defects take part in making me me, from insomnia to colour blindness to being able to see clearly for only two feet in front of my face without my glasses.Nope, I like myself for who and what I am now.Would you take your “cure”?I have no set limits for change, because change is different for each of us and its often our choice to follow through with change or choose not to.what would your limits for change be?Its their, I'm here, I'm not changing and no ones forcing the 'cure' down my throat so I have no problem with it.Finally how would you react to the existence of said “cure”?
[This seems like it might become quite an interesting thread Lioness. At least we dont have to worry about a man that can move a bridge crashing part of it into Alcatraz....yet.]
Last edited by darkreever; May 29th, 2006 at 00:11.
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Well I must say that I wouldn't take "the cure". As Exterminatus-Squeebie already have said it all come down to the old "if we were all the same the world would be a better place". No it wouldn't. It is the difference between people that makes the world and if we all was the same it would be a very boring world.
Me myself am stuttering (don't actually know if it is spelled that way) and I've several times got the question "If they were a cure would you take it". That have made me thinks a lot about that issue and I've come to that conclusion that I wouldn't. I see my "disadvantage" as I part of me and I wouldn't change it.
This is actually a very ethic topic. Lioness says that she wants a cure so she doesn't have to deal with idiots. Well I just have one question and that is who should have the authority to make those kind of decisions - who should say that that guy needs the cure.
I wouldn't live in a world where some people are aloud to make that kinds of decisions.
I fully respect that some would have those kind of thought and opinions so I mean no harm with my post
The main problem is forcing a cure down people's throats, if we do that we'd fall into the style of the nazi's.
Other than that i'd certainly like to cure many of my cosmetic imperfections and genetic faults (but not much beyond that).
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If everyone was the same, noone would notice how boring the world was, there'd be nothing to compare it to.
Sometimes, nature vomits on you. Some of these puking sessions can be constructive, they can lead you to develop strengths in other areas, some of them are just plain destructive.
If a drug could suddenly make me 6 foot, let me see without glasses or contact lenses, let me build muscle and let my brain maintain the right levels of serotonin on its own, I'd take it. No thought, no question.
Something like sexuality is more confusing. Personally, I think it's completely constructed, maybe not consciously, but at the very least it's determined by experience rather than some 'gay gene' or 'straight gene' which you can just iron out. I don't think sexuality warrants my, or any persons thought. If you're attracted to someone, fine, you're attracted to them. Adding a 'but I'm straight' or 'but I'm gay' isn't going to change that.
So yeah, I'm happy in that regard. I don't think change is possible without a shock machine and a lot of sodium penthanol.
Last edited by The_Giant_Mantis; May 29th, 2006 at 00:27.
I'm instantly reminded of two things, right off the bat.
1) "Remember - you're a unique individual, just like everyone else."
The first is just a saying I've heard. I'm pretty sure everyone else has heard it, but I find it appropriate, even though it's original intent is a joke. People are meant to revel in their differences and their flaws. Our imperfections are what force us to improve ourselves and encourage growth. If we are all perfect, what reason is there to try to improve ourselves?
The second is a Sci-Fi movie involving Uma Thurman and someone else I can't remember and am too lazy to look up on imdb.com, but not so lazy as to keep typing this entire sentence. Anyways, it's about genetic manipulation before birth, and while not entirely the same, I think the repurcussions would be the same - the people who did take the cure would be considered a higher class of being than those who did not. They'd be the "perfect image of society" and everyone else would be flawed. It'd create a rift amongst the people, which could lead to all sorts of bad things like civil war or genocide.
As for your specific questions....There is little I would change about myself. Except perhaps my bum knee and bad back, that is. I am planning on having my eyes fixed through lasery therapy (since I'm legally blind and suffer from glaucoma), but I'm not sure I'd subject myself to a "all-cure" just to fix that.Originally Posted by Dark Lioness
It took a long while for me to realize that our imperfections are what make us special, and I dont' think I'd sell that for anything.Mostly disgust, but I am tolerant of other people's decisions. What they wish to do with their lives is their choice, so long as it doesn't negatively impact me or anyone else.Originally Posted by Dark Lioness
In my opinion, what we need is not a cure for homosexuality or ethnicity, itâ€™s a cure for homophobia and racism. What we need is not to be like everyone else, but for everyone else to accept and respect us for who we are. Sadly, being a jerk doesnâ€™t fall under any known medical definition, and there is currently no cure for idiocy.
Personally, Iâ€™m proud of who I am, and I would never want to submit to a medical treatment with the explicit purpose of altering my very identity. As others have said, the very flaws that I struggle with in my daily life also contribute to make me who I am, and I wouldnâ€™t give up any of them even for a chance of getting a â€˜normalâ€™, â€˜easyâ€™ life. Really, that sounds like a sales-pitch to me, because life is never easy, not even if youâ€™re just one in the crowd, blending with the backdrop.
And whoâ€™s to say whatâ€™s normal anyway? Who can really know what â€˜everyone elseâ€™ is like? In the attempt to create a common standard weâ€™d likely end up with something rather more bland and boring than even your most normal â€˜like-everyone-elseâ€™ unaltered personality; even those taking care to never stray from the middle of the mainstream usually have something that makes them unique even to their peers, something that gives them their own identity. The only way to make everyone like everyone else would be to define a standard template personality and then force everyone to conform to that standard, effectively obliterating all trace of individuality from a person and making them just another mindless clone in a crowd of human cattle.
While itâ€™s true that standing apart from the main can easily be a cause for social scorn or even harassment, itâ€™s also true that everything good about the human race, everything that makes human life worth living, comes from our individuality as well. Great minds, great artists, great poets and composers, all stood apart throughout their lives, and my guess is that most of them were not always popular for their being different either. Imagine if they had given up on themselves and conformed to a standard set well below their abilities! But they all struggled with their problems and overcame them, be they of a physical or psychological or social nature, and blessed us with the creations of their unique gifts. Even if we are not a new Einstein or Mozart or Da Vinci, we should appreciate our uniqueness rather than scorn it, and overcome our hardships rather than succumb to them.
Truly, there is no such thing as â€˜everyone elseâ€™; we are a race of individuals, all unique in our own ways. Rather than inventing a cure to make all alike, we should learn to rejoice in our differences.
Although, there is something to the idea of a cure for idiocyâ€¦
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I take tablets to control my OCD.
I don't care if it "makes me who i am", it's a pain in the a*** sometimes!
I'm not sure sexuality and race should be adressed in the same way as medical ailments. I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to take a cure to make them healthy.
If you want to take the Cure, its ok. But if your forced to, its wrong. In my eyes, anyways.Ahhh Magneto. And why is he the bad guy? ^_^[This seems like it might become quite an interesting thread Lioness. At least we dont have to worry about a man that can move a bridge crashing part of it into Alcatraz....yet.]