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Has anyone ever played against someone, who became so agnry, they threatened to, or actually, destroyed on of your models?
I was playing the other day at a friends house. My buddy invited a kid he met at a local store to hop in and play a few games. I'm always up for playing against new opponents, so I welcomed playing this guy first.
I was using my Death Guard against his Imperial Fists at 1500 points. It was a simple cleanse mission using Infiltrate, Deepstrike and Victory points.
I had a really good position on him and was winning. By the end of the fourth turn, the game was clearly in my hands. His dude gets all huffed up and says he quits. He then starts to put all his models away. I think whatever and start putting mine away.
When all my models were put away, he still had is "dead" models on the table, so I start calcutaling victory points, just to see cause I was curious, not to be an ass. He sees this and he kicks my army carrier!!!
I'm a man of action, so the instant he put his foot back down, I was already in full swing and ripped him in the mouth with a heafty right. He fell to the floor and my buddies promptly kicked him out. They threw is army out on the front lawn and locked the door.
WTF!? My army was fine, but c'mon now. Why must people act like that? He was about 20 years old, had a job, his own car, and things like that, but acted like a baby.
With any niche hobby or something which isn't the bog standard [Mantis please don't get on my case ], it's always a problem.
This forum has clearly proved that generally people can be cool and mature, but it does attract a lot of people with not so well defined social graces. It's the nature of the beast, and it's the reason that I left the hobby some 10 years ago. [only to restart after i realised how much i liked the universe from playing Dawn Of War.]
This hobby attract some amazing imaginative people, but it also forms a recess where petty people can get their kicks (no pun intended) out of being petty.
Shame you had to learn the head way not to ever play with him again though. Still, at least your beautiful Death Guard are ok
Last edited by Karmoon; July 17th, 2006 at 23:45.
Some have no fun unless they are winning, and not doing that starts them on a downward spiral of unhappiness.
The few times thats happened to me have seen one of my armies (One of my two 3k sized armies) completely smashed up because of one dispute (My opponent refused to believe a russ could not be taken in combat patrol even after he was shown you can't.), and someone try to pull some punches in a tournement after being kicked out for giving everyone low scores just for beating him while he got fair scores.
You've got to hate it when some people can't stand not being the best..
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Sounds a little harsh :wacko:
Though that's just a case of being a poor loser (on the other guy's part). Ye should always just play to have fun, not to win (though winning is usually a good goal ), of course.
Fortunately for me none of my regular opponents are that bad, or violent, the worst I see is screaming and excessive cussing on account of rolls of five 1's at once, etc
@darkreever: Yeah, sometimes it's almost just worth letting them win or do whatever they want do you don't have to deal with them...
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What! How dare you imply that I'm not normal!Originally Posted by Karmoon
I was thinking about this post while walking back from the cemetary where I was hanging out with my dead friends when it struck me that yeah.. What kind of 20 year old does play with little toy soldiers. There's gotta be something wrong with a guy like that.
In more serious news, yeah, this hobby does tend to attract a few less than perfect examples of humanity. I can't say I would have gone so far as to punch the guy but you were right to react.. Noone wants to play with a petulant child, and the sooner this guy learns that, the better.
Last edited by The_Giant_Mantis; July 18th, 2006 at 01:44.
Indeed.Originally Posted by The_Giant_Mantis
Although, I'd much rather be into something creative like this than sit in front of the TV all night and day and amuse myself by gossiping about big brother at work (for those who don't know what big brother is, I envy you).
I swear, at work, some people just sit in front of their screens and gawp. The only words they know are, 'clubbing' 'big brother' 'alcohol' and 'eastenders' (once again, I am envious of anyone who doesn't know what Eastenders is).
I'm not saying that those things are necessarily wrong as such. Just... how can your life revolve around something so mundane?
But yeah, sometimes I also wish that table top gamers would shower more, go out and play in the sunshine occasionally, and just chill out.
I know it's wrong.. but the vigilante inside me which screams for justice just can't condem Black Katalyst for throwing what sounds like a haymaker into annoying kid's chops.
Although the evil part in me would have stayed silence and then billed him later for hundereds of pounds/dollars/yen etc etc worth of broken figures, and approached him in public about it etc. muhahahah
Envy me.Originally Posted by Karmoon
Whilst I think that the guy that kicked Black Katalyst's army shouldn't have done so, I think that it may have been more frustration than anything. Perhaps a few calming words might have helped rather than evicting him on the spot. If not, then eviction would probably have been a good idea.
Still, I guess no one takes kindly to getting his rather expensive belongings getting damaged by an annoying opponent.It really depends on what each individual views as mundane. For example, non-soccer fans might be wondering why soccer is such a mania amongst soccer fans; a lazy student might wonder how a diligent student is able to score high marks; those that dislike Big Brother also wonder what Big Brother viewers see in a show like that. It's all a matter of perspective.Originally Posted by Karmoon
Just to clarify, how were you counting his models? Were you not touching them as you counted, touching them lightly, or full-blown knocking them over onto the table? If it was the latter, I could see some ground for provocation, but a simple, "Hey, please don't do that," would have sufficed.Originally Posted by Black Katalyst
While I do tend to agree with your side of it, Black Katalyst, I would have to say neither his kicking of the carry case, or your right hook were really appropriate, or for that matter, mature.
I don't think it was a very mature thing for two guys over 20 to have done, and while his actions were relatively harmless (damaging to property) legally, yours were grounds for an assault charge. Some guys are just bad losers, and that's something everyone has to deal with at some time or another, and I really don't think that getting physical solves anything for either side.
Aah, I knew sooner or later I'd get caught up on this. And yes, definitely agree with you. But by mundane, I mean shows and things which represent reality. I mean, what's the point of watching reality on a TV when you can go out and experience it yourself?Originally Posted by Schmeag
My life is really intersting, maybe a bit too interesting at the moment :wacko: , so i don't feel the need to watch people doing normal things when life is already full of them.
I guess the reason that myself and alot of people like stuff like this is because, in reality I can't shove a bolter in a genestealer's face and blow it away. Call me escapist if you will, but as i said, it's better than watching some social retards in a house together putting on airs (big brother).
Dr_Nick22, your maturity astounds and humbles me. I wish I was half as mature as you.
Last edited by Karmoon; July 18th, 2006 at 11:06.
A saying comes to mind about pots and kettlesâ€¦ :shifty:Originally Posted by Black Katalyst
Honestly, I must go with Dr_nick22 on this one; while threatening to or actually destroying another personâ€™s models out of anger or frustration is a terribly immature act of defiance, it does not warrant the even more immature reaction of hitting the person back in full force. A powerful blow to the chin or jaw risks at the very least to break teeth and bones, and at worst a hard punch and the subsequent fall to the ground can cause some serious permanent damage to a personâ€™s head â€“ is a bunch of little figures really worth that much? Not to mention, as Dr_nick22 says, that you yourself now risk facing a charge for physical assault.
As for people threatening to destroy my property out of anger, be it models or other items, it has happened to me a few times. Usually I find that playing it cool and merely telling the offending individuals that theyâ€™ll be made to pay for whatever they destroy work fine; what they want more than anything is to provoke a reaction that proves theyâ€™re in control, and if you act like you really just canâ€™t be bothered to care their tempers tend to deflate rather quickly.
Alternatively, Iâ€™ve also threatened to tell on them to their mums, which is also an excellent tactic and surprisingly effective.Oh, you think guys who play with toy soldiers have a problem? Pft! :rolleyes:Originally Posted by The_Giant_Mantis
"Girls are nice and cuddly on the outside, and freaky on the inside." ~ Lost Nemesis.