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I have few major beefs with our government, mostly because I know they won't last long. However, there are certain individuals and groups out there whom they are listening to. These groups are hell bent ruining my fun. I am in no way a violent person (as many stupid nancies assume we are,) but I very much enjoy the sports of Kendo, Iaijistu and Airsoft wargaming. Lately, the goverment has been under pressure to ban (and quite rightly in a way) both Sumurai Swords (Eugh please refer to them as Katana's....please?) and replica firearms. If the legislation passes that will be two of my major interest down the hole in one swift stroke.
Why oh why must we have blanket bans that criminals will mock and law abiding people will suffer from? Why does Tony Blair listen to idiots like Mothers Against Guns who actually claim that airsoft replicas can be converted to fire live ammunition? Its hard enough to convert a spring loaded plinker into an automatic electric gun (trust me i've done it lots,) live ammo? I don't think so. Get your facts right and come back when your a reasonable person.
Also, I'm a little upset about the knife amnesty (its a great idea though, don't get me wrong.) The reason is that to me and many other martial arts practitioners, the Katana and its varients are sacred items of spiritual significance. Granted, most of the swords handed in will be useless stainless steel lumps of rubbish, but there is bound to be the ocasional original, perhaps pricelessly old handed in. Seeing stacks of swords being picked up in a grab and crushed is jarring to me, some of those swords may have been brought back from Japan after WW2 and then handed in, their owners ignorent of their historical value. Its quite upsetting, to see people's heritages been insesitivly crushed. I would be the first to volunteer to sift though them and make sure nothing of value is destroyed, if they gave me the oppertunity.
I am totally sick of the government pandering to people who moan and whine over things that won't be changed by legislation that criminals will laugh at.
What are your thoughts?
I also think it is crazy, even thought I don't live in the UK. Carpet banning things is never a good idea. People would just be disobeying the law for having an old forgotten airsoft gun in the attic, because the "Might 'convert' it to a firearm, if such a thing is even possible. What ever you ban, criminals are criminal, they don't care about the law. Any law you isn't going to make a difference on them. Like Will J said, it only makes the common person unhappy, the criminals couldnâ€™t care less.
In Virginia, where I live we have he exact opposite problem. It is to easy to get hold of fire arms. You just walk into a gun shop and buy one. In order to carry a gun in public, however, you must sign a form. In order to take a fencing foil into public, we have to sign a form. Nightsticks, no problems, same form. Thatâ€™s fine, but what really makes me mad is the fact that that same form gives you the right to carry a firearm where ever you want. They difference in magnitude between firearms and fencing foils is huge. Itâ€™s crazy.
Thank you Will J for making this thread, I really needed to rant.
They call them 'samurai swords' because katana a very precise definition. Otherwise they'd be calling a wakazashi a katana for legal purposes.Originally Posted by Will JI agree, but the primary source of weapons in the UK is from decomissioned live firearms which have been converted into replicas. Maybe not airsoft, but trust me, the demand for guns is such that if it can be done, it will.Originally Posted by Will J
I agree with you though.. Serious criminals won't laugh at the legislation because they never used samurai swords anyway. It's irrelevant to issues of crime.
But look at the other side too.. it does seem silly that combat knives and machetes are banned, but I can buy a wakazashi which I can hide under some clothing and carry around in the street because it's a 'sporting weapon.'
Last edited by The_Giant_Mantis; August 23rd, 2006 at 18:57.
Australia already has what equates to a blanket ban on swords of any kind. To own a sword (of any quality) you need a license, to get a license you need a reason for buying a sword, and the equivalent of a gun locker. I'd like to collect swords, but can't afford all the extra stuff I'd need to be allowed to (or most of the swords I'd want).
I can kind of understand the idea behind the blanket banning of swords because they have become the new weapon of choice for lowlife crims, but when you consider how uncommon swords are compared to kitchen knives, you have to wonder at the point of it (hell you can get knives as a "bonus gift" when you buy stuff).
One city even tried a knife "buy-back" scheme the other week; hand in a knife, get tickets to a sporting event or the cinema. There were maybe 4 dozen "weapons" handed in over the course of the day. What upset me was that even though most of them were ordinary kitchen knives, there were 2 katana styled swords in there too; as well as a few "fantasy" blades. These were supposedly weapons that people carried to "feel safe". Can anyone explain to me how you can comfortably conceal a sword in such a way as it makes you feel safer?
You also have to ask why people are starting to carry blades as personal safety devices.
I don't have the answers, but then again, neither do the authorities.
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Holy crap. This world is getting harder and harder to be happy in.
So, no more paintball guns & no more fake 'katanas'? That's just f*cking retarded.
Mephisto knows: Rebels without a clue.
Activists! They cart around whining about the japanese swords being dangerous and a bad influence on impressionable minds, while the signs they wear on their bodies & carry around raised up high make them look like a bunch of roving Samurai. Only without any worth at all. They cry out for 'no more violence' but should anybody disagree with them, watch that poor being die.
Most of the time you don't even think. You just ban because you see it as something which might be dangerous because it's shaped in a certain way. One of you hears some tall tale about the new novelty soap bar being used as a stabbing weapon, then you mobilise the troops and begin to lobby.
Any time the news contacts these sad, pathetic excuses for huiman beings, they always act like:
"Unnnnnnnnn! This is a damaging effect which will only bring society down!"
The only damaging effect around here is YOU! You're making it illegal to do anything. And at this rate, the only thing we'll be allowed to do is watch the T*l*t*bbies on TV which is more damaging than one idiot trying to look cool on the street by carrying a blunt, fake, sword.
HERE'S YOUR SIGN!
There you go. That's my thoughts.
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Heh, I know I was just being picky picky picky .Originally Posted by The_Giant_Mantis
Mpdscott, I wouldn't mind it if we had to have liscenses for our swords and a sword cabinet. That wouldn't be too much of an obstacle for serious collectors or practitioners. But the government isn't apparently even considering this, which is sad really.
I would not be ranting if they were introducing liscensing, but they aren't .
Again, agreed, but you can sort of see their logic.
For example, look at handguns.. it used to be that you could own a handgun with the correct license, until some guy (who had a license) went and gunned down a bunch of kids in a school.
Here's a question though.. are they going to ban sporting shotguns? Umm.. nope, because the stiff upper lip and welly brigade actually have a coherent voice, unlike sword enthusiasts.
My advice.. find like minded people and form a pressure group. Get chummy with organizations like the British Kendo Federation (or whatever it's called.) Get publicity, and try and present a coherent case.
I agree the trouble with amnesties is that the only people who are going to hand anything in are the law abiding citizens. The criminals aren't going to bother!
The end result being that the bad guys have more guns than the good guys
What bought some of the insanities of the Knife amnesty (and to a lesser extent ban) home to me was finding some pictures of my Father in Scout regalia, with a big knife as part of the uniform. You can carry any number of lethal objects arround, kosh someone on the back of the head with a saucepan and they'll feel it. At the same time i'm not allowed to take a 4" vegetable knife to cut my apple in my lunchbox?(not at school btw.)
It also struck me as insane that when last flying back from China, we weren't allowed knives, but glass wine bottles from the duty free were fine in the hand luggage.
Banning all handguns seriously dammaged Britains Olympic chances in pistol shooting, and we get few enough medals as it is.
The maddest thing of all:
My local firestation was recently rebuilt without a firemans pole.
Because it's too dangerous.
So, it's safer to run down several flights of stairs (which also takes longer) than go down the lethal pole 'o death and risk a sprained ankle? I went down a pole as a 6yr old (and miraculously survived).
Not only that but if a pole is dangerous surely it's a bad idea to run red lights, excede the speed limit, respond to chemical spills, climb high ladders oh, and run into burning buildings.