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Well, so as to not hijack the previous thread...Pardon, but I've been ot Dachau, I've walked around it for a day. I'm not religious, and barely superstitious (outside of warhammer), but that place truly felt haunted, like there was a real heavy atompshere of death in the air. Dare I say, you could almost feel the souls and pain of the dead. And there were gas chambers there. Seeing and thinking about them made me shudder. Untenable? I challange anyone who's been there to say so.Originally Posted by Nagato
Nothing personal against you, Nagato.
Thank you, Yoss, for trying to prevent the rude hi-jacking of my thread elsewhere in this forum, I really appreciate the effort. This is an important discussion as well, although one Iâ€™m surprised to find is really necessary in this day and age â€“ one would think that even the most anti-Semitic people would give up their arguments in the face of the amounts of evidence provided by careful studies of the actual death camps as well as official documents from the war and eye-witness reports.
For an examination of the Holocaust denial, I can recommend the very excellent Wikipedia article on the subject, found here.
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Um,Originally Posted by The types of people who really hate Jews; Nazis, Neigbourring nations, general ****tards, etc.:huh: :hmm:Originally Posted by the same
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It happened. The camps are still there, and most (that I know of, none by name) are historical landmarks now.
*snorts* Yeah, the Jewish freemasons are now secretly building faux deathcamps everywhere to support their phony allegations of being killed in the millions.
No way was their population drop caused by that, they all dissapeared under the ground to plot over taking us all down.
In case you were wondering, I was being sarcastic.
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As stated, the evidence is just overwhelming.
So far IÂ´ve only seen NaziÂ´s, idiots and attention-wh**es claim it didnt happend.
If youÂ´re taking this personal, good then you are one of the above.
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I don't get how holocaust deniers account for the fact that before WWII there was a fairly large Jewish community throughout Europe which if the holocaust didn't happen simply dissappeared
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It was a conspiracy! during the war 6 million Jews cunningly hid themselves as part of a conspiracy!........Originally Posted by Berny Mac
The lunacy of claims that the Holocaust was propaganda is incomprehensible to me, it would have made superb anti-nazi propaganda, but we didn't use it. Who gains from creating the myth and why?
If the Jewish people are hell bent on taking over the world and have been plotting to do it for thousands of years, how come Israel is a tiny country, completely surrounded by enemies? are they lulling us into a false sense of security?
There are so many counter-arguments it's untrue, Holocaust deniers tend to be closet Nazi's or.....Iranian madmen, both unbiased perspectives.
Am I the only one who finds it funny that the only person (i.e. Nagato) who purported that the Holocaust didn't happen is the only one NOT posting here? Right now we're just preaching to the choir.
Oh, and I've been to Mauthausen. Though perhaps someone would like me to believe that it was a cookie factory, instead :rolleyes:
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**** man even reading about the holocaust makes every hair on my body stand.
I have never actually been ther but just thining about it makes every hair stand on end. Then anytime something creepy happens my hair stands on end and i become excedingly alert. It is wierd i felt really tired like five min ago and now i am like looking out the windows and over my shoulder.
Wierd. Anywho i think that those that believe that theholocaust never existed are complete fools.
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The holocaust is hyperreal..
I don't honestly give a damn if it happened or not. It's dead, buried, gone. None of you will ever experience it, ever know it except via photographs and occasional visits, if you're lucky, to the places it happened. That's not understanding.
The holocaust as it exists today is a social invention, it's something to howl about, to vent collective emotion which none of us really feel because we weren't there, and no ammount of pretend grief, or self-righteous gloating will cover that fact. We have no comprehension, no real understanding.. We've just turned it into a fun little metaphor, a morality tale to make us feel better about ourselves.
Yes, I understand the tradgedy, but it's not my tradgedy. It's a personal tradgedy.. or more precisely, millions of personal tradgedies grouped together. I can emphasise with that, but no more than I could emphasise with any story of personal tradgedy. Did the person who lost their mother in the holocaust suffer more than the person who loses their mother to cancer? Who can tell, and who the hell cares?
Why do I care about any of this, you might ask? I don't know really, but I guess because, ultimately, it's just so tacky. It's like a theme park of tradgedy, which everyone can buy into. It's like some big cultural icon, some massive label to stamp on your emotional makeup to demonstrate you're a human being. The centrepoint of all human pain, misery and cruelty.. The ultimate morality tale, unlike the Cultural Revolution in China, which saw more people murdered, but of couse, the people responsible got away with it. So let's just ignore that one.
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Last edited by The_Giant_Mantis; September 4th, 2006 at 03:25.