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YouTube - 300
This is a film coming out next year, if you don't know the history of it then you can look it up here;
Battle of Thermopylae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Three hundred spartans hold off an number of Persians, here's a quote from wiki;Three hundred kill fifty thousand, supposedly."Again and again the Persians attacked the Spartans, but again and again they were repulsed. It was said that the Persians lost over 50,000 men by the end of the day, but the Spartans were finally beginning to tire and lose men. Their main weapons, the 8-foot-long Spartan spears, were almost all broken, and many had been killed and wounded. It is estimated that only 100 Spartans remained in good enough condition to fight on the last day."
Anyway, the film is based off the graphic novels by Frank Miller, called 300. I like the look of this!!
Yes the Spartans held a narrow pass against the Persian king.
Epitaph of Leonidas, commander of the Spartans at Thermopylae:
"Go tell the Spartans, passersby,
That here obient to their laws we lie."
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I heard about the movie. I really hope they don't botch it up and make it horrible. I've seen and heard about a lot of things that could have been good, but the movies were just executed so poorly that it sucked. Then of course no one wants to remake the movie because it did bad the first time.
It just goes to show you, quality beats quantity.
Originally Posted by The Paint Monkey
In fairness, even after the others retreated there were still 700 thespians, 400 thebans and about 400 (maybe up to a thousand) Helots (slave soldiers). The 300 get the mention as they were the hard core that kept the army together. Without their bravery and stoicism the Greek army would probably have melted away, bar a few who lacked the morale and experience to do much. Its right that they get the glory, but the others should get a mention.
I've watched the trailor and seen interviews and stuff. It is not an historic recreation by any stretch of the imagination, but it does seem to be building up to be an awesome, sylistic spectacular.
I cant wait.
When I first heard about 300 as a film (about 12 months ago) I was pretty unenthusastic but that trailer makes me want to see it for sure.
It certainly looks like the bloke with the beard is a bad man, doing bad things, to bad people.
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The film is based off the graphic novel more so than the actual historical event. Still, looks good to me. A good bit of action never hurt anyone!
There were definately also the 1000 Phocians in that army, guarding the mountain pass to the rear, who failed to stop the Immortals.
About 3:1 would be a tough fight, probably in favour of the Greeks, for this time period. Even given the higher numbers I would believe were there this battle is still an example of a super-human feat. Unbelievable, really if it weren't for the reliable sources we have.
If it hasn't already been mentioned, the novel "Gates of Fire" by Steven Pressfield gives a more detailed if still somewhat fanciful recounting of the events leading up to and during the battle.
I'd reccomend it as a damned good read even if it is somewhat embelished.
He certainly indicates that there were many more and varied troops than the '300' spartan hoplites on the greek side at least at the beginning of the battle.
However, this does not diminish the efforts of the Spartans who knew, from king Leonidas on down, that they were doomed men fighting a delaying action.
Last edited by Grey; November 23rd, 2006 at 22:05.
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I wasn't aware of the extra thousand too. Still, doesn't really even the numbers does it? I think it was in the Greeks favour due to the hoplites and the terrain. The larger numbers could not be brought to bare except in front of the Greeks. The Hoplites favoured this, due to obvious reasons and even though the numbers would be exhausted it was one hell of a feat!