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Heavy Armour Great weapon
wall crusher, mawseeker,
Fist full of laurels
Light armour and Iron Fists
2x4 Iron guts
I have about 150pts left. Any ideas what is should do or add or delete. I want to get some commands and some magic banners thought maybe takeing one model off each of the lead bealchers and possible the iron guts as well.
thanks in advance
Firstly your Butcher is not legal. You may not have 2 arcane items on one character. You may also not have more than one big name per character so your tyrant may not have wallcrusher and mawseeker at the same time. I guess the big question next is, are you playing this 2250pts for tourney or fun?
If you are playing for tourney then there are drastic changes I would suggest for it.
1. Gnoblars are pointless unless you plan on fielding the scraplauncher.
2. 2 butchers is perfect, but give one of them a skullmantle and 2 thiefstones and the other a bangstick.
3. The tyrant needs re-vamping....I would give him the tenderizer,brace of hanguns and mawseeker at the very least.
4. Leadbelchers are not nearly as good as they first appear to be. I would nix them completely.
5. Throw a bruiser in as a BSB with a warbanner.
6. You HAVE to field a unit of bulls per the rules... Thats what you should do... ONE unit of bulls with nothing added to them.
7.Run 2 squads of 9 ironguts with full command. To one of these you add the Tyrant and the butcher with the skullmantle/thiefstones.
8.No ogre army is compete without a unit of Yhetee. Run a unit of 3 w/greyback as flankers.
9. Gorgers are there for a reason.... They eat artillery. take 2 of them.
Consider running the tyrant with the -greatskull- as well because his unit will be a large target for magic.
With this build (including the greatskull for the tyrant) it comes to 2236. thats pretty close and you need nothing else. Run the bangstick butcher close to the ironguts. Try to co-ordinate the yhetees and ironguts w/tyrant to hit the same target simultaneously. Not many units can survive a hit like that.
I know that I threw alot at you for you being new to OK's. If you have any questions at all feel free to ask.
Have fun and eat someone for dinner!
Mainly this is for fun but if I ever was to go to a tourney or anything I wouldnt make special lists. Any who as I am poor im trying to go with 2 starter boxes the 90 dollar ones.
Soooo If anyone has some conversion ideas im open to it. That being said i would like to get a scrap launcher in there. And since the goblinars come with the box set looks like ill have to find a use for them.
Also im intrested on why you say big units. Is this not wasting attacks.
Ok.. Budget armies can still be formidable. You'll need a few packages of greenstuff and a good imagination. Butchers can be made simply by adding a larger gut, some fleshy jowels and a cleaver or five. I would suggest actually purchasing a tyrant unless you are a master sculpter .
Now as far as my "Big Unit Theory" ( Bear in mind that this is MY playstyle. While I certainly think its good others may and will not think so. Best way to do go about it is to play many different ways and find your OWN style)
The reason that I play the big units can be answered in one word... "FEAR". EVERYTHING in your army causes fear. ( OK, not gnoblars but who cares about them anyway??? ) In order for fear to work to its utmost potential you MUST OUTNUMBER YOUR OPPONENT. You charge them....they fail the test....you outnumber..THEY RUN..... You beat them in combat..you outnumber them...they fail to roll snakeeyes.. THEY RUN.... The thing you want your opponent to do against you.....Say it with me.....IS RUN!!!!!
Look at it this way... you are a big nasty 3+ wound critter that causes fear. The main "drawback" that people see in ogres is that we are always outnumbered. I dont see it that way. In my 2250 list I run 2 units of 9 ironguts with characters to back them up. My "command unit" has 9 guts, tyrant, butcher and BSB bruiser. Thats 36 unit strength. You WILL outnumber 99% of the units on the field. Add in the Tyrants leadership and the BSB's re-roll...... You dont run... as if you would. IN Combat resolution.... you will outnumber, you have the gut standard bearer, the bsb with a warbanner. Thats 3-4 resolution that you START the combat with. You have a 4 man frontage consisting of the Tyrant (5 sttacks at STR 7), the butcher (3 attacks at STR 7 -siegebreaker-), The bsb (4 attacks at str 5), and the Gutlord ( 4 sttacks at str 6 ) NOT TO MENTION (giving the tyrant wallcrusher) you have 3 str 7, and 2 str 6 impact hits. Given the fact that I usually give the unit the bull standard.... Thats 5 more to resolution before the "combat" begins. You take this unit and aim it at the core of your opponent... You march and charge.... Only units that realistically stand up to this charge and dont run..are the undead ( or any unit immune to psych )...because they are too dumb to run away. I played a similar 2000pt build in a league this past summer.. The only army that game me issues were the dwarfs and only then because the #$%^#$ that played them had cheese coming out his ears. Nothing like putting an anvil in a corner behind a piece of impassible terrain and loading the front of it with 2 organ guns and 2 bolt throwers. But I digress. As stated before.. the main thing to remember about playing ANY army... is that its a game.. You are there to have fun... If you find yourself not having fun then you are probably trying too hard. I hope I did not ramble too much... If you have any other questions I'm always here... I'm usually eating.....or fighting.. but I'm here....
Have fun and eat someone for dinner....
Last edited by OgreTyrant; October 19th, 2007 at 04:19.
Wow this does seem impressive. Gots my wheels turning on maybe a hybrid of sometime Imploying some of your ideas and maybe personalizeing them a bit.
Now i dont mind buying the character models as I have the artistic abilities of a 5 year old.
I thought i did see a post where someone mentioned the fact that you could make more iron guts than that are in the box with the left over piece. So more iron guts is always a option.
Now i guess my next question would be what do you use your 1 unit of bulls for? Flanking?
Ill start working on a reviesed list since my tyrant is messed up
You asked what I use the bulls for.... Well as far as I am concerned they are just here because they have to be. I normally just run them straight up the middle alongside the main units and have them smash into anything that they can get to. I have no tactical reason for them being there.
Last edited by OgreTyrant; October 19th, 2007 at 21:13.