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Hi, I'm new to librarium online
I thought you guys ll be able to help me
This is my first 2k list please be critical and many comments
Ogre tyrant---- 300pts
Demonkiller scars --
1x4 ironguts-- 207
22 gnobler fighters--44pts
Haven't played with this list yet
Tyrant goes in big unit iron guts
butchers in the smaller ones
the 3 bulls are for bait or to cover from gunfire when the gnobs are gone(maybe flanking)
Don't know if this list is ballanced please be critical
Last edited by war of fantasy; September 28th, 2008 at 20:27.
trust me, ironguts at units of 4, leadbelchers as units of two,. maybe three.
it will work a lot smoother
Ok. Thnx! I'll try it when I'm playin again
But i still had a few quetsions about some thingz
1. If a unit of ogre's has a tyrant with demonkillerscars the unit ll cause fear and terror
When i charge someone will he need tot take a fear and a terror test??
2. Are these yetthees usefull to let them walk next to tyrant unit and go with em when they can both move 7inch?
3. When I table the 2 gorgies at the same turn and there are 2 shooty units will i go with 2 gorgies at 1 or both at another.
4. When the tyrant has longstrider and he's in a unit of ironguts, can the unit of ironguts with him move 7 inch? or has the tyrant to be alone to get the advantage of longstrider.........
Thnx again for the advice =]
Last edited by war of fantasy; September 27th, 2008 at 19:50.
Okay firstly all of thwese queries are in your copy of warhammer, but i shall clarify:
1)the unit does not cause terror, the mass always counts, if the tyrant charges out of the unit towards the enemy, that enemy MUST take a terrror test, if they fail they will flee directly away from you 2d6 inches before the charge is resolved.
the best way to use this effect is when you put your tyrant out on its own with the bull gut, so that he can plow into the flanks of your enemies.
2)its fine to do this, it makes little difference though, be careefull not to get to close when you chrge into combat, aura of frost effects your models too.
3)this is always a gamble, people do have a tendancie to about face and knock that sucka down, personally i would sick both on the one unit, then you can definately kill them, place both of them in seperate flanks of the unit though, that way you wont lose the potential flank or rear charge, something that ive converted to doing is using 1 maneater with a great weapon, his strength 7 destroys war machine in one bold stroke and his weapon skill is better than that of a yhettee
4)once again the mass count but a unit also can only move as fast as the slowest model in the unit.
hope this helps out mate, if you have more questions dont fear to ask, frankly chances are that ive tried it before.
I don't know where to find all information in armybook =P
its all in the hero section, the aura of frost bit is in the errata sheet, its kinda a pain because they never fill in the one question you want to know, but if you read thye book cover to cover a couple of times youll be a much better player.
abusing model stats is one thing but abusing the gAME THROUGH THE RULES THEMSELVES, ELEVATES YOU TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL
Well i've got a question......
Most of the time when i'll be playin i'l be playing empire and Dark Elves(new dark elves)
I have an idea of dealin with empire (wich mostly fails) but when i play dark elves is always get stuck bcause i don't know what to do.(played them 3 times won 1)
In a thousand point battle he'll mostly have corsairs or black guard's as main unit, 1 unit of cold ones or other cav., repeater crossbows, sometimes fellheart but not always and spearmen to sacrifice with that #%#@$$!! Sorceress (she's so annoyin!!)
Well do you know how to handle them or somethin like that....
I always thought that if you had a terror causing tyrant in a unit that only causes fear and you charge and the terror causer touches any model in their unit, the unit takes a terror check.
Also don't forget that while he's in a unit he still has the 6" terror radius.
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your problem is likely that your playing a thousand points,orges dont really pick up untill 2k, so try to get a bigger game in.
i havnt played them but know a couple of people who do and unfortunately their pretty well rounded, and have quite a few tricks, in this instance a well placed scraplauncher shot into your enemy gunlines would help a lot, and maybe a maneater sneaking up on their artillery.
hope this helps
one thing I have noticed is your unit of ironguts have a lookout gnoblar but no standard bearer, it is kinda against the rules to have a crows nest without a banner to put it on, also, you have a unit of gnoblar trappers but not the hunter you need to take them with, otherwise, seems Ok, I hope the large numbers of ironguts work