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So seeing as how the new thing in the Ogre Community is the paradigm shift way of thinking I decided too try and make a list that way myself and here is what I came up with, tell me what you think
Fistful Of Laurels
2x Gnoblar Thiefstone
2x Sword Gnoblars
1x Luck Gnoblar
2x Sword Gnoblars
2x Sword Gnoblars
20x Gnoblar Fighters
8x Gnoblar Trappers
3x Cathayan Longsword
So that's it, the tyrant and 2 bruisers will go with the maneaters making a ITP Stubborn Magic Resistance (2) deathstar, I will run the leadbelchers on opposite sides of them, the 2 units of bulls are for bait and flee, the fighters are there since I had 40 points too spend, but in case I go up against a gunline I will employ my line them twenty across most of my units so first couple of rounds they are really meatshield, I might move slower but the look on the opponents face is priceless ( I was also thinking of dropping one unit of bulls and the luck gnoblar and making the leadbelchers units of 3, comments?)
"Far to the east of the old world within the craggy valleys and cave networks of the Mountains of Mourn, lie the Ogre Kingdoms."
this really isnt anything different for ogres. you jus created a squad for you ogre character for a cannon and treb snipe fest. leaving most of you good character in a already good squad will make the other player focus fire on them and i mean focu fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well not having any butchers, taking a hunter and taking all tyrant/bruisers seems different too me compared too most ogre lists I see posted and putting the characters in a maneater unit is also different since the most ogre deathstar lists put them in units of ironguts, and yea sure they are gonna focus fire...that's normally what happens when you take a deathstar list????????
NOTE: THIS IS DOMOTO I AM ON MY FRIENDS ACCOUNT
First thing is first, I dispise the lord set up im sorry, seigebreaker stirkes against the enemies initiative, and against ohter characters u will usually need a 4 to hit anyway so replace it with the tenderiser, i like greedy fist and drop fistful of laurels and give him the necklace
get rid of the tenderiser on him and give the first bruiser fist full of laurels and sword of might
get rid of the warbanner and give him seige breaker
get rid of all the sword and luck gnoblars
drop the unit of bulls, and all the gnoblars and get some yhettes
because right now empire gunline, high elf archery line will end this list so fast and i never actually put my BSB in a unit i hid it in between a few so it passes the rerol but wont get charged
Im scared to know what would happen if u face VC with 10 casting dice or Deamons with 10 casting dice or chaos with 10 casting dice, u have two dispell dice, VC would seriously cas winds or raise all day long because that is alot of wounds to cause on all thos ogres
Deamons of Chaos (21,0,1)
Vampire Counts (54,6, 11)
Warriors of Chaos (11,2,4)
going different is going my list with no Butchers two and giants( giant and the chariot thingy forgot name that differnet .
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going different is going my list with no Butchers two and giants( giant and the chariot thingy forgot name that differnet . Putting charafcter in a power ful squad will just decrease there life span or in tery is really point less,.
Actually from playing against ogres with WE (best shooting in the game ) most of the time shooting does a few wounds but its the panic check that really kills them.
Seeings how maneaters are ItP that takes care of that.
The lookout Gnobblar gives the entire front row look out sir against cannon and trebs.
And seeing how no matter where you hit that unit with a charge you really can't get enough attacks to kill everything and then your facing either maneaters. maneaters+bruiser, or 2 bruiser and a tyrant.
If you manage to beat it in combat and force a break test, you have stubborn and a bsb so reroll so almost no chance of breaking it from combat.
Focusing fire on it could be a good thing for an ogre player, if they are focusing their fire on just that one unit your going to get your bulls, ironguts, leadbelchers or what have you, make it across unbloodied, better to have a unit that can take it get pummeled than the smaller units of bulls and ironguts that really can't take a whole lot of shooting.
Maybe if the other army just avoids that one unit, but that might make them get out of position to get counter charged by your other units of ogres.