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8 gnoblar trappers
8 gnoblar trappers
skull plucker spangleshard heavy armor
hunter +2 sabertusks 205
30 ogres 48 models
How would this fare up against dwarfs? I think I managed to cram a good amount of ogres in here. Trappers seem real useful, I love my skinks. I would like to know if i have a chance against bretonians with a list like this. Should I go for 2 butchers, by removing the hunter? Will the 2 units of gnoblars buy me enough time against shooty lists? Is this list competitive?
I really just want advice before I start buying my second fantasy army.
I imagine i will be goin for flank charges and march blocking against a good deal of opponents. Did I get the mix of bulls to iron guts right?
Mostly I just want a fast disruptive force, am I accomplishing this with 2 gorgers and the trappers?
thanks for your insights!
Last edited by purple40k; March 20th, 2007 at 22:16.
I'd rather have another butcher than the hunter, though he makes the trappers much more resilient.
Those ogre units need musicians! That's one upgrade that you can't go without IMO.
Gorgers are great fun and work well in pairs.
Musicians are golden. All those tiny units of ogres are a panic explosion waiting to happen.
The way Skull Plucker is worded, it seems to indicate that it works alongside the Ogre Club rule (which your Tyrant keeps and would use as Skull Plucker just grants you Killing Blow, relegating you to hand weapon use)?
Against a stand-still shooting army like Dwarfs, I'd say fewer but larger units unless you want a Gnoblar Fighter speedbump (deploy some Fighters in a long line in front of your ogres and slog on).
Dunno about Bretonnians, if they're all knights, your flank/marchblock tactics sound sound.
Hunter makes your Trappers a more reliable missle screen. Second Butcher gives you more magic against an army good at nullifying it, but then again, six casting dice (six spells) and a bound spell. Butcher would pay off more on average, I think (they can still pound the crap out of stuff). Second Butcher would free up points for musicians, too.
Bulls vs. Ironguts is a big old boring argument. Bulls are cheaper naked and more versatile geared up, Ironguts hit harder. Depends what you prefer, as it always always always ever always does.
I frequently talk from my ass.
so far the consensus is drop the hunter for a second butcher. cool, i really dig the gut magic. i will be forced to drop a unit of trappers, which saves some points. now i can afford those musicians.
with those changes would i see any sucess in competitive play? i really want the list to be tournament worthy.
kineater seems like a must for the small ogre unit list.
will those gorgers sufficiently mess with gunlines? they can charge the turn they come on the board, right?
thanks for the advice, so far looks like i am headed down the double butcher path. any advice on equiping my butchers?
Gorgers can move the turn they arrive but not charge. However, most people hate facing Gorgers because of their ability to kill stuff good, and having two around just sucks for them. They'll most assuredly divert a good deal of attention away from your battleline.
All the arcane items in the Ogre book are good by my estimation, but the Halfling Cookbook is a favorite of a lot of players.
another thing i am looking into are maneaters. they seem like a cheap hero choice. could a maneater be worth a gorge? are you guys often succesful with maneaters?
i have decided to run a kineater tyrant equip as follows;
siege breaker kineater heavy armor
seems like the added leadership abilities will help alot with ogres.
i am thinkin that squeezin' in 2 units of 4 iron guts might be the ticket, for the sake of the butchers. on the other hand will kineater make up for this? im not exactly sure.
would really appreciate the insight here, thanks.
Units of four ironguts are a good idea IMO. Better chances at reducing panic tests taken.
Maneaters, they're fun, but I'm not sure that they're better than a gorger. Gorgers accomplish a few things more easily than maneaters do.
Look into giving your Butchers Jade Lions or Fistfuls of Laurels if you're worried about their units being out of range of your Tyrant's Kineater ability.
Do you mean two units of four Ironguts instead of four units of three? Or two units of three and two units of four?