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    5 strong ogre units

    Hey all, just a quickie. WHat formation do you use with 5-strong units? 3 in front, 2 in the back, 4 in front and one just hanging on, as the casualty in spe, or just 5 in front? It seems fun, but very hard to manouver. Anything would be useful, thanks!


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    You're right. Five is really hard to maneuver. Having three in front still gives you 120mm across, bigger than 5 wide units of infantry on 120mm.

    I'd probably use 3 front, 2 back. That'd give you two impact hits at str 5.
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    I dont use 5 strong units myself, I either go with 3 strong, or 6 strong for the impact hits.

    I sometimes go 4 wide as well If I add a character to some Ironguts.

    But if you do go with 5 strong I would stick with a 3 wide front like David said
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    I dont use 5 strong units myself, I either go with 3 strong, or 6 strong for the impact hits.

    I sometimes go 4 wide as well If I add a character to some Ironguts.
    Do you find you have trouble with panic tests with groups of 3 or 4? It means 1 casualty and you have to roll. With 5 or more you need at least 2 dead before testing. I would think that if you can't get into combat before you lose 2 or more ogres to shooting you are having loads of problems anyway.

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    thanks ! however.... how about facing high elves...? or anything with bolt throwers for that matter...

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    well, I run 50+ gnoblars in many of my lists and use them to screen alot. I mostly use naked bulls in units of 3 and then Ill run Ironguts in bigger units.

    I usually have a couple units that panic before they can get stuck in (hopefully to rally later on) but with units of 3 you can get alot more units so it doesn't quite hurt as much as if a larger unit were to run.

    I also don't fear bolt throwers that much when my 3 ogre units don't have a second rank to take a wound too. Unfortunately, I haven't played High Elves before (most of my opponents being dwarfs, wood elves, and O&G) but it seems to me that with some gnoblar screens, and some well timed charges, you could wipe the floor with those T3 pansies.
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    That's interesting about the bolt thrower. A house rule at our store is that with Ogres in a 3x2 formation, since you don't actually have a legit rank, there are no ranks to penetrate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by double.bind View Post
    That's interesting about the bolt thrower. A house rule at our store is that with Ogres in a 3x2 formation, since you don't actually have a legit rank, there are no ranks to penetrate.
    So if I have a 1 full rank of zombies and only a partial rank behind the first, the back zombies don't get hit? That doesn't make sense.

    It's not about ranks. It's about models in a unit standing one behind the other.

    Or am I missing something? (Which is entirely possible, btw )
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    I've always played it that its not a matter of ranks, its a matter of models being behind whatever your shooting, like David mentioned.
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    the books states that its not a question of legal ranks, but house rules dont come from the book now do they? THe question remains... 5 strong ogre unit, facing a bolt thrower. What configuration shall I set it in

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