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GW - bloody GW (just kidding, but guess the reference)
I do not know if i should start collecting my first army, ogre kingdoms, right away. Or should i mayby wait untill the new armybook is released. why? because it looks like its the next one after tomb kings (or mayby before). your oppinions, anyone?
Don't bother, they are getting phased out. Best spend your money elsewhere.
Can you come with any confirming resources, links - something to build it on?
Phased out? Thats funny considering all the rumours of a new book this year, probably before tks now as tks had to go back to the drawing board, (due to gw not letting design departments comunicate so the new tks book didnt work with the new 8th edition very well). Considering ranks of 3 wide for ogre size models is also on the cards for 8th edition i wouldnt listen to much to Hito.
Rite the new rule book is out July 10th (apparently) and July 6th sees all new pdf documents for exsisting armies (including Ogres) to help them work with new rules. If you can i suggest waiting for the new rule book.
On the other hand what are you waiting for? If you want to do ogres because you like them, a new army book shouldnt change that for you and you would have done them anyway, however, if your simply waiting to see if ogres are a new uber army then you will just have to wait and see how the new 8th eddition works and might aswell just get any army which is good instead.
I would start by buying the models you know you will need no matter what, and take my time putting together and painting them a unit or box at a time. in this case ogre bulls. by the time you have 2-3 boxes made and painted, 8th editoin or at least previews should be out so you get an idea what to expect.
There may be concern the ogres will end up like beastmen and get nerfed, but with 8th edition i think beastmen will become better anyway.
How can you nerf the worst army in the game?
Please dont listen to hito and you can start collecting ogres now to paint. Iron guts will be in the book 100% so you can have a blast painting and converting. You can wait for the new book and ogres are a great fun army to play just a little hard to use.
I only recently started my own OK army. Ok, I have been massacred by daemons but managed to win against beasts and skaven. But they are great fun to play with even if I loose. Also the painting and everything.
If you want to play them, play them, there great!
One thing to note is that the Ogre Kingdoms battalion is one of the best deals GW has right now. It is a significant savings over buying the sets individually, and everything in there is probably going to be useful. Currently, Ogres tend to take more Ironguts than Bulls, but Bulls could very well become more useful when we get our new book, and they can always be converted into other types of Ogres, especially to save you from buying the expensive character models if you are on a budget. Really it would be hard to go wrong with buying two battalions because all the units are useful and whatever they put out as a new battalion with the new book will surely be a worse deal.
Thank you everyone - this was a GREAT help. The problem is, that now i have a lizardmen and warriors of chaos armybook lying around, even though the lore in them is great (got them just after they came out as presents)
my reason to wait is that if some fundamental builds change, so ive just equipped my ogres with X, and in 8th Y is a lot more viable, then i have to remoddel
Last edited by Kail; May 2nd, 2010 at 17:03.