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Oh the shame! The shame of it all!
'Twas a bright sunny day 'pon the lands of Brettonia. The birds chirped, the children frolicked, yet in the background the faintest of rhythmic beats could be heard. Miles away a large ogre clan strode the countryside confident their bellies would be filled this day.
What came next gentlemen was unexpected to say the least. Having played brettonians before i knew the key things to be avoiding and where to strike effectively (i still knew that the game wouldnt be a pushover, but was (stupidly) quietly confident).
3000 point game, i had my 5 strong unit of ironguts w/ tyrant which i'd lovingly labelled the "Can Openers" since this unit alone has managed to beat down and devour Ironbreakers, Empire knights, Greatswords, Grail Knights, Chaos Knights etc etc. They had been tough battles but had dispatched these previous challengers before.
On the other side of the battle field i faced some Grail Knights w/ bsb, some questing knights with a lord, a trebuchet, peasants here and there, some pegasus, Two damsels and some other stuff im not really sure of.
To prevent this from becoming essentially a battle report, i'll cut to the chase. Some Fast moving yhetees managed to dispatch a unit of errantry knights complete with damsel and over run into the Trebuchet. Things were looking up. My Can openers were staring down the barrel at the unit of questing knights, and was thankfully in charge range. This here is where everything went to ****e. Now, with the three strong front and a full rank bonus i was looking at 1 Strength 7 and 2 strength 6 impact hits, 4 Strength 7 hits and 6 strength 6 hits (it would have been strength 8 and 7 but that lousy damsel managed to dispel my bullgorger before my yhetees devoured her dainty behind. Anyways, the lord challenges my tyrant to which i gleefully accept. Impact hits fell one knight (kewl), but the other 6 attacks from my ironguts do precisely diddly squat (zuh?) and the knights actually manage to take two wounds on my ogres thus felling an ogre (one was only on two wounds. Bit of a downer yes, but i should be able to come back from this.
Now, the battle i was waiting for! Time to deal out some gut justice. 4 Attacks, hit with 3, wound with three, he fails all three armour saves AND all three ward saves. This here is when he informs me that when his lord reaches one wound he gains a 3+ Ward save and he decides to take this ward save (cursed human trickery). I have the brettonian book so i knew everything was okay here. So i figure i'm just going to have to grit my teeth and bare this return attack which should be easy enough, what with 5 wounds on my tyrant and his measly four attacks, i figure im going to get him the round.
This is when i notice a small glimmer of hope in his eye, this worries me a little but i just pass it off as a bluff. He rolls, 3 hit, two wound and one is a 6, to which he is overjoyed about. I remind him of my ward save which i promptly fail. This is when the gravity of the situation hits me. It suddenly dawns on me what has just happened here. In my over anticipation to accept the challenge i forget one key thing about my opponent. He consistently games against a guy who uses a lot of large monsters. He begins opening his mouth, but i already know what he's going to say. "I've taken a virtue which ..." I cut him off before he finishes "gives your character killing blow against large targets right?". He smiles and nods smugly. A shadow falls across the gaming table, i now know my well laid plans are about to get incredibly frail.
The ironguts are broken and run down. Upon seeing their superior armoured comrades spit roasted on the brettonian lances both remaining units of bulls decide to turn tail. One unit is cut to ribbons and the other one manages to flee off the board. Both units of Gnoblars high tail it, the Yhetees decide that the mountains certainly look a lot safer, my maneaters were crumped the turn before.
The rest of the game was me trying to play cat and mouse with a lone gorger and two thirds of a brettonian army. The gorger did not feed this day.
Much ogre blood was spilled, the tribe now in tatters returns to the mountains of mourn to feast and grow fat and one day, exact revenge upon the lands of Brettonia.
Let ye be warned fellow maw seekers, if your travels find path through the lands of Breton, never take immunity from killing blow for granted....
Last edited by Censor; September 29th, 2005 at 07:07.
Well this is a particular case, as he ajsuted is list to fight you. I mean, I haven't seen any bret list take up this virtue, so you shouldn't be too scared in tournaments.
I would of loved to see yur face at this point though ^_^
Fret not, the Ogres will still win the day. Your tribe will migrate through the Brettonian countryside, devouring peasant villages as they go. Since it's only peasants being attacked, the Knights won't come to their rescue until it's too late.
Eventually, the Knights will begin to starve because your tribe has eaten all of the farmers that supply their Knightly Lords. Then those same Knights will be too weak to don their armor and your tribe can eat the Knights and their horses.
Wolf_Pack is right, though, in this case, your opponent's list had been tweaked to take out your shock troops, though beating Brettonians is a tall order for Ogres to begin with.
WHFB: Dwarfs || WH40k: Imperial Fists, Necrons || WM/H: Trollbloods || BFG: Necrons
the best way to fend off bretonnians is to take gnoblars to them. They will either charge them, and problably run them down, but will be left open for a unit of ogres to flank them. if he doesn't, welll he feel the wrath of sharpstuff or getting charged by gnoblars, and the next turn the ogres will hit in with a deadly Boom Urr Urr!
Again, leadbelchers could do alot of damage to a unit oif knights, try to include them i your future games
Kinda seems like we're clutching at straws there. I know how to handle Brettonians most of the time anyways. The guy i play runs his army in a theatrical sense in that he wont tailor lists to beat armies. His lord over the past few games has managed to take down a Giant, a Dragon, Kroxigor and something else (tree man maybe?) so he decided that virtue would be characterful for his lord. He takes on Orcs a fair bit so often comes up against Giants and trolls and such.Originally Posted by Quickasawink
This was just one of those times when one event changed the entire flow of the game. After my tyrant had the great weapon buried in his cranium my tribes leadership went out the window. I couldnt pass a single panic test and my battle line crumpled under the pressure.
I just posted it cause i thought it was funny.
Last edited by Censor; September 30th, 2005 at 08:26.
A Tyrant isn't a large target. Unless the virtue is "models on 40mm or larger bases" or "larger than man sized models" or "large targets and ogre sized models" the killing blow won't work on ogres (esp. Tyrants) or Kroxigor, etc.
I'm not clutching at straws. What you see before you is a joke that fell flat on its face.Originally Posted by Censor
Simply put, the Tyrant was killed by something that was meant to kill Tyrants. There's nothing else that could have been done save for rolling better.
@GrandReaper. What constitutes a large target? Dragon-sized things? I ask because this has come up before with my Ogre Hunter, who can lay extra wounds on large targets?
The stop-gap measure I was using was that anything that comes on as large a base as the hunter is large. (The Hunter has the next size up from the normal Ogre base size.)
WHFB: Dwarfs || WH40k: Imperial Fists, Necrons || WM/H: Trollbloods || BFG: Necrons
A large target is anything that has "Large Target" listed on its stat profile, eg. Dragons, Screaming bells etc. It does NOT include anything like Kroxigors or Ogres, unless of course "Large Target" is listed.
You got played.
Yeah, I'm a Bretonnian player and that virtue says that you have to be using a mundane weapon and be striking blows against a Large Target (so it wouldn't killing blow a man sized model). There's really no way to kill Ogres with killing blow, because normally it says man size which ogre's are not.