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Hey guys this post is for my friend his been having afew troubles vsing my tomb kings and i'm wondering what you guys would recommend changing in the list he runs.
He usually runs something along the lines off:
Black orc boss
2 x lvl 2 orc shamans
15 black orcs
20 orc boys
10 arrow boys
10 wolf riders
2 bolt throwers
Personally i think he should drop is black orcs for another units of 20 boys and also try to squeeze in a block of night goblins by dropping his shamans down to lvl 1's with dispell scrolls maybe even drop them to goblin shamans as at the moment i shut his magic down quite easy. Any ideas for advice i can give?
There are 2 things about this list that are sticking out to me:
1. for 1k points, 10 wolf riders seem unnecessary. 1 unit of 5 would probably suffice.
2. drop arrer boys. you can get twice as many gobbos with short bows for this cost, and you can add some fanatics to make them combat ready.
by doing this he could do a number of things. Night gobbos + fanatics are cheap and effective (sometimes), orc boyz or savage orc boyz are nice, or even just taking 20 or more night goblins with short bows.
Without know what your list is, get rid of the arrow boyz and black orcs. Get a second block of orcs or night gobos. I'd keep the wolves. If I needed to free up points I would drop the shamen to lvl 1.
well my list is a shooting/magic heavy list with 2 priests, a prince, a block of archers, 5 light cav, 3 chariots, scorpion and a catapult. Seems every game i either take him out with my shooting or if i play a close combat style game my chariots just steam roll through his wolf riders and my scorpion holds it's own long enough for them to flank charge his black orcs or orc boys. In my opinion i think he just needs more units on the table as i seem to be able to out number him with combaty units even though half my lists points is spent on my heroes.
Here's a 1K list that I find very effective and to the point.Black Orc Big Boss on a boar with shield: 107Orc Shaman, lvl 2, Waaagh! Paint, Amulet of Protectyness: 135Orc Shaman, lvl 2, Boar: 116Orc Boyz, Full Comm w/shields, 18 total: 138Orc Boyz, Full Comm w/shields, 18 total: 138Orc Boar ChariotOrc Boar ChariotGiantYou could sub the Orc Chariots for gobo chariots and then add some more figs to the orcs.
He should take advantage of his rare choice and put in a giant or doom diver.
Also, drop the black orcs, split the wolves into 2 units of 5 (make sure they don't have shields), drop the arr boys too.
He can the grab another unit of Orcs, and you can use a 2x10 ranked NG unit as a screen against shooting for both units.
Lastly, O+G can't really go middle magic, 1 ng shaman with 2 dispel scrolls, and a black orc bsb with Totem of Mork will be more than enough magic defense @ 1000 points (it works for me at 2250).
The general should have some better weapons too, Shaggas if he thinks your characters will all be in the same spot, or the reroll axe + enchanted shield. Always put him on a boar as well and rank him with a big block of infantry.