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I'm soon playing my friend who leads a VC army and i made a new list that i'd like som comments and crituiqe on!
Blorc Big boss
bigged kickin boots
heavy armour 119
9 black orcs
waaagh banner 189
Morks spirit totem 300
Night goblin big boss
martogs best basha
light armour shield 84
staff of sneaky stealin 135
A total of 1498 pts
Your general is very undergeared and will get mauled by just about any VC hero. Put him on a boar, give him a shield, take Shaggas Swords instead of the Big kickin boots.
The Black orcs are ok, I wouldn't give them a magical banner or Full Command though. Use them as a flanker for a big unit. Also the champ upgrade for black orcs is terribly overpriced.
The big uns need more guys so you don't start losing dispel dice once you lose 1 guy/auto break to outnumbered fearcausing enemy. also drop the champ.
Your NG hero looks like a waste of points too. He's basically a 84 point black orc with worse save and leadership. Consider, a Goblin Big Boss, Mounted on a wolf, shield, Wollaps One Hit Wonder, and the trickys trinket. 91 points, and the guy is basically a missle. Should be able to put the hurt on a vamp hero, maybe even kill them if you get a decent roll.
The NG blocks are good nets for one wouldn't be bad if you can scrape the points.
Since you're going against VC, you know they're going to have at least 5 dispel dice (one for every Vamp), and even at 1500 points they could have 6-9. Why would you upgrade a shaman to level 2 when even 4 power dice won't play against 5 dispel dice let alone 6+? Drop him to level 1, and consider 2 dispel scrolls over the staff. With minimal magic defense they're usually better.
Chariots are Cool
There's a reason spear chuckas are 2 for 1 special choices. Never take them in odd numbers.
Giants are Cool
Ok, very nice advice. I made som changes with the options that i have. And my friend brought his WoC army instead.
Ng and Orc shaman lvl 1 2 dispel scrolls.
Blorc big boss with war banner and dispel, HA and shield
10 spider riders, fc
10 ng archers
20 ng 3 fanatics, nets, spears
19 boyz, std, shields, butchery banner
Chariot, put the Blorc boss here.
10 black orcs, fc waaagh banner, shield
At first it seemed to be an even battle, but my fanatics all went in the wrong direction, spiders squabbled, Orcs squabbled and i made a few bad decisions considering line of sight and such. By round 2 i rolled basically nothing. My orcs ran away, spiders ran away, archers didnt do anything, and the black orcs got smashed and ran off too. Until round 4 when my giant took out his warrior knights. and after being completley in the wrong direction, my chariot and general returned in the last round to take out his general. and the chuckas took out his Wizard.
In the end it was a draw, me having 150 points more than him left on the table
nice save there!
your making me regret i use 2 doomdivers instead of a giant
got any new plans after this battle?
Thanks, tho its mostly luck. No i have no plans, i need money for my plans, and for a poor student its hard =) Im just sick of night goblins, all they do for me is carry fanatics.
Need to be better at flanking, and its important to be the first one that charges.
I need help with dark elves tho, im hating all of the hundreds and hundreds of arrows coming my way....