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hello i just put together a orcs and goblin list and need some help on improvements
azhag - 450
black orc big boss w/ battle standerd, martogs best basher, enchanted shield, heavy armor - 134
50 night goblins w/ full command, spears, netters, 3 fanatics - 330
30 ork boyz w/ spears, shields, full command - 240
21 night goblins w/ bows - 63
10 wolf riders w/ full command, bows - 160
20 black orks w/ full command, noggs banner of butchery - 323
giant - 205
doom diver - 80
total - 1985 (i dont know where the last points should go we always play 2k)
am just starting dwarf and the mighty greenskins not got any models yet apart from azhag but i might get a skull pass before there all gone
so any advise its all changeable i normaly play tk and bm if that helps
i would like to push in a second giant if possible they sound fun
Last edited by psychosheep; August 2nd, 2010 at 20:18.
actually your list is 2005 pts
the orc boyz cost 240 pts
the ork boyz was a mistake but how is it 2005 not 1985?
my tip: get shields for your black orcs and remove two bow gobbos and you have 1999 pts total(two less gobbos isn't going to change anything and 4+ armor for black orcs is.)
i can only get rid of 2 gobo or the unit is to small
but i could loose 1 orc boy to give them shields (the battle standerd goes in there any way)
your wolf riders is a big unit so I can assume it's not a warmachine hunter unit.
I personally like chariots more than cavalry in this edition, so I would take 2 boar chariots or 1 boar chariot and 2 pumpwagons or 2 goblin chariots and a pump wagon or what ever you like in those combos.
but depending on what your trying to do with your wolf riders and what you like to use and how competitive your army needs to be there's not that many changes I would advice you to get
Chariots do sound nice for hunting now that they can march.
- 10 Wolf Riders is a nice number now i think, especially when you charge a T4 warmachine, then 5 wolves might not make it out alive.
Have you considered using normal night goblins with nets over a spearmen unit? Theyre quite expensive, but they do have Vanguard
- And heres a thought about the Fanatics:
The large goblin unit wil probably be deployed near your centre, while the archers could go at a flank. If those archers have fanatics they can devastate enemy flankers, while fans in your spearmen will most likely only hurt a core unit down their centre. For those points you might be better off with a rock lobba or spear chukkas for that job
So i would suggest: give a few of the fanatics to your other (archer) goblins instead. Or perhaps replace them with artillery.
- Azhag is really tough, and expensive. You lack numbers, so Azhag will have his work cut out for him.
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ok so i can move the fanatics around but what combination of chariots (and pump wagons) would be best for war warmachine hunting and hitting the enemy in the flanks?
also is azhag going to be too expensive at this size of points or is he possible he is my only wizard as well as my LORD OF ULTIMATE DOOM but i love the model its just so cool.
goblin chariots for warmachine hunting, they hit as hard as a orc chariot an cost less than most warmachines so they always get there points back.
for flanking all chariots are great, pumpwagon is great against horde T3, the other chariots are also great
just so you know chariots cant march but are still awesome i have 8 in my 2500pt army and they help out alot.