first 3k Orc & goblin list

[rebirth]

This is my first Orc and & Goblin list, i want to hear what people think.

EDIT: ok i remade the list this time with more heros

Lords: 750 Points

Grimgor Ironhide
Black Orcs
Unit Size: 10
Musician
Standard Bearer
Wailing Banner
Shields

Orc Great Shaman Level 4
Channelling Staff

Heros: 731 Points

Goblin Shaman Level 2
Dispel Scroll

Goblin Shaman Level 2
Ruby Ring of Ruin

Black Orc Big Boss
Shield
Basha's axe of Stunty Smashin

Savage Orc Big Boss
Sword of Anti-Heroes
Dragonhelm
Enchanted Shield

Savage Orc Big Boss
Sword of Battle
The Terrifying Mask of EEE!
Shield

Savage Orc Big Boss
Sword of Strife
Shield

Core Units 762 Points

Savage Orcs:
Unit Size 26
Musician
Standard Bearer
Additional Hand Weapons

Savage Orcs:
Unit Size 26
Musician
Standard Bearer
Additional Hand Weapons

Savage Orcs:
Unit Size 26
Musician
Standard Bearer
Additional Hand Weapons

Special Units: 150 Points

Black Orcs
Unit Size: 10
Musician
Standard Bearer
Shields

Rare units: 600 Points

Doom Diver Catapult

Doom Diver Catapult

Doom Diver Catapult

Doom Diver Catapult

Snotling Pump Wagon
spiky Roller

Giant
Warpaint

Total 2993

[Andy Davies]

I'd say loose the troll and beef up your Hero choices a bit. At 3k I'd expect your opponent to bring in some nasty heroes. Also only having 2 lvl shamans is leaving your magic phase a little weak. Play test this list(proxy if you have to,) and see how it does. You'd be surprised what a list really can do on the table opposed to paper.

[dennisdegooijer]

i have a few thing that bother me
- i would say 2 big mobs of orcs, lets say 31(including Grimgor in a 8x4 formation)black orcs and 40( 10x4)
- make your shaman savage and give it a lucky shrunken head and fencers blades and put it with the savage orcs
- you need a tarpit of at least night goblins with netters.
- and im sorry to say this, but get down your charachter choices, you have 1/2 of all your points in character which is way too much(note that the unit black orcs is not icluded in your lord choice. tough its good to have in every unit a character
- u need an battlestandard bearer, put it with your savages
- replace 2 doom divers with 2 rock lobbers
- put the giant away and run 4 mangler squigs, they kick ass
- also you need fast units, like small units of 6 wolf riders AND wolf chariots
- and last but not least take a unit if 6 trolls, its only 210 points and it has 18 S 5 attacks and regeneration

i hope it helps