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starting an orcs and goblin army (well not really goblins ) and was on the GW website where i came around grimgores ardboys list. am i still allowed to use this lis tor is it a storm of chaos list? thanks for all help in advance.
Well, its storm of chaos, but most opponents will fight it anyway. You just cant use it at a tournament.
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Vampire Counts - 3500 Points
Orcs And Goblins - 2000 Points
I got myself a 2000pt Grimgores ‘Ardboyz army for Nemesis Crown but it simply didn’t seem to be cutting the mustard. Now this totally could have been down to poor tactics on my part but it struggled against most opponents I faced. True you’re pumping out a lot of bound spells but you need the previous Orc army book for the spells to work as they are meant to. I found my self carrying around the new army book, the previous one, and SoC book when I was using the army and although not a real problem, it did prove bothersome going back and forth between books for rules or to show opponents spell affects.
Also I found that (expectedly) you don’t really get the horde factor in Grimgore’s list. I wanted a change from my dwarf army of blocks of 20-25 of around 4-5 units but found myself faced with the same kind of formation. Fighting wise, and if the Orcs get in they can be nails, but often enough I found that I didn’t get enough troops after upgrades and characters to be too affective against larger armies or those with more manoeuvrability who could just pick on one unit at a time.
Where GA list seemed to shine for me was no doubt as how it was intended, against elite armies like for instance chaos, elves, and sometimes dwarves (provided not shooty), armies where I could get my troops in and proceed to smack away at one unit after another and let the Orcs do their job. This is what the Soc list was for, defeating Chaos and other elite armies and why they did so well in the campaign, but now it’s a real struggle against the newer armies or the horde armies where a kill is just a drop in the ocean to them, able to sacrifice whole large units for low points cost.
With the new Orc book in my opinion you don’t need to revert to SoC to do a GA.
Black Orcs are better now (as you would have to use previous rules for them against some picky opponents), and are no longer 0-1 choice.
You can still take Grimgore who is now cheaper I think, and doesn’t take up a lord and something else choice, but just a lord.
Change in the magic lists means you will want goblin shamans instead of Orc shamans if you want damage dealers instead of supports (simply because little magic is in my opinion nastier on the lower rolls meaning more success with casting).
Going O&G also allows you to field some nasty units like fanatics or squigs as well which excel at frustrating and decimating opponents.
You are much better off all round making an Orc heavy list from the new book than going GA from SoC. You can still get 4 Black Orc units in at 2000 pts if that’s your aim but I find GA no longer really works except against certain opponents, and you will really struggle to win let alone have a fun game as you are slowly worn down.
Hope this helps you sway away from GA for a more viable and fun army build.