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So i was thinking about starting a orc army. Would a army with just the orcs be ok cause i love how the Orcs look all types. Im just a fan of the goblin units or heros. Id use the rocklobber and spear chukka. But otherwise might not have any goblins.
Would that actually work or just set up for fail, if i need goblins ill use just they are not my favorite lookin unit.
Last edited by Jvmock; June 14th, 2008 at 05:38.
The Orc army is so varied that cutting out goblins still leaves you with buckets of variety. I think you'll be fine without them.
Yeah thats what i was thinking but i read a few posts that say they usually feild a ton of the Goblins for numbers. So yeah i guess ill just use the orcs i just think the orcs look badass.
if you change your mind though taking a couple goblin units as cannon fodder would be useful, put some greenstuff chains on they're hands or feet or something to look enslaved. =P the best unit to take the goblin cannon fodder place though is probibly a unmodified orc boy squad with only the sheilds.
Yeah i would do some cool green stuff effects but im still fairly new to the game, So i havent really had time to use it. Still workin all different painting styles and all. Yeah if i see tho i need a unit for just cannon fodder ill make a unit of reg goblins they look ok. I really just dont like how the night goblins look. The only thing is after reading the rule book and all some of the night goblin stuff seem pretty good. But i think ill be able to work with out any Night Goblins and maybe 1 or 2 units of goblins.
i agree ithink NGs don't lok that cool but usually they are a bit better than goblins for the sole fact that they get a hw and shield at 3 points where as a norm gobbie needs 4 points to take the shield as a upgrade, also the NGs have higher I, nets, and fanatics, but even if just a cannon fodder unit, NGs are a better choice, sad really =/.
Yeah but th emore i read the rule but the mor ei really dont think i need them. Im sure there are a ton of armies out there that dont use. So I Will probably just go with a orc themed army with mainly all orcs, and the unit of goblins at certain fights for fodder. Thank you tho guys for the info and all
An all Orc army is completely viable. I have done it with the new rulebook and I was fine. Orcs themselves are pretty cheap for what they can do, so you can field a pretty decent number of them without goblins. I didn't have any shooting at all, but I did use waaagh magic. Spear chukkas are really cheap, so you still might want those. Just go with lots of regular orc units and some black orcs, savage orcs, and boar riders to support them. I used Goblin wolf riders as they are also helpful, but aren't completely necessary if you want to stick to your theme.
All orc armies are great fun to use, and are very effective when used well. The big waaagh really complements them, as it should, though having war machines around when you cast a Waaagh! spell is a touch infuriating. it works well with arrer boyz thoughy, as just moving them rather than marching before casting a waaagh! means a lot of movement, but still keeping the ability to fire shots.
You'd want to base an army like this around 2 or 3 large units. Personally I field blocks of 6x4 black orcs and big uns w/ 2 choppas and then have many small units. cavalry can be useful, but you'll often be just as well off with a big unit of orcs, especially for the price we now pay for boar boyz. Choppas are a better weapon than spears!
As for goblins, you can always use gnoblars. I use these for common gobbos, taking a unit of 25 of them with a hand weapon and shield gives a fair survivability with high static c res. Plus the models look that bit more disorganised and goblinny.
Hope you can make use of some of this _CC
Yeah i was reading tha thow they abandon there Machines i didn think that made much sense or i misread it. But that seems kinda stupid that they just abandon them.
Really i think for my theme the only goblin units i may use is the Siege units like the spear chukka or Rock lobba or doomdiver. Then maybe 1 or 2 units of reg goblins or goblin wolf riders. But for the most part i think i may pass cause i just dont like how they look that much for some reason. Or maybe i could make them into Mini orcs tha tmight turn out cool hmmmm.....
I was thinking tho of using the goblin wolf riders with bows just to harass units Run in shoot and run out maybe kill a few here or there while i advance my army is that a normal tactic or is that just a fail tactic?