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Right I use a hoard, always. I have 28 big uns' with additional choppas with a standard bearer.
The standard bearer has the "banner of wailing" (I think its called that, basically gives the unit terror)
I also use a Orc hero BSB with the razor banner (armour piercing) he joins the unit.
I have another Orc hero with the crown of command (stubborn)
So basically my unit is terrifying, stubborn and has the armour piercing special rule, on top of this they get re rolls to their leadership tests because of the BSB.
Also because they are big uns' they have better strength and weapon skill, so they get 5 strength on the first round of combat (love the choppas rule)
This has never failed for me.
Way to many points sunk into one unit IMO
I agree with Tiny Tim, there is a lot of points tied up in one unit that doesnt have a lot of strength in numbers/hardiness to stand up for long.
I would expect this unit to become a prime target for warmachines and nasty stuff like 13th spell, purple sun etc.. and lose a lot of units before it gets anywhere near combat.
Since the new book came out, i'm finding I just don't run any Orc Boyz in my lists :/ For the extra few points Savage Orcs do a much better job of killing (3 attacks each and 5+ ward makes a big difference), A horde of 50 NG's with nets will be a much better Tarpit for a lot less points.
Your layout would be too expensive and too soft for my taste.
I only use savage big uns´ because I get more attacks for the upgrade.
I usually field 30 orc boys with shields or additional choppas and full command with general and BSB.
Would I field your unit I wouldn´t be able to field my beloved savages.
To put it in a nutshell: savage big uns´or no big uns´for me.
If you always fared well with your unit, try out the cheaper layout and spend your points on a chariot or other units. It never hurts to try new tactics.
Last edited by Hallmarius; May 31st, 2011 at 10:50.
I love to take 20 black orcs, field them 6 wide and put a lev 2 orc shaman with a crown od command in the unit. Plus take the razor banner. First round, i dont use the banner, i use it round 2 or 3 depending on the enemy unit. I have yet to see my unit flee from combat or get totally destroyed without basically destroying the other unit as well.
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I always run my Savage Orcs with additional hand weapons, Big Un's throwing out 3 attacks each are nasty. I also try and throw a Shaman with the Shrunken Head in as well, the 5+ ward is also great.
This unit does seem to have developed into the fotm lately, but, that doesnt detract from its usefullness so i won't stop using it quite yet
At least 20 Savage Orcs, additional choppas, full command (even without a character joining the unit)...
They're core combat units, each front rank model throws out 3 attacks each while frenzied... I don't tend to take Big 'uns, but I do tend to take the champion regardless coz he's effectively a Big 'un with 4 attacks, which also offers the opportunity to challenge a hero and kill him (4 WS4, S4/5 attacks, Underdog Challenge)...
Edit: I'll be selling a load of Orcs & Goblins stuff soon... just had a job offer starting at the end of August, so need to have a big clearout!!!