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I'm currently building an 'Ard Boyz army and would like some advice on my selection of troops. I have listed them below as ones I already own and ones I plan to purchase. Any advice would be greatly apprecuiated.
1. Borgut x2 (I plan one converting one to be Borgut's brother or son)
2. WarBoss on Wyvern (really liked the model, I know I probably won't use it much)
3. Orc Shaman x2
4. Orcs w/2 choppas x32
5. Arrer Boyz x32 (I know they arn't good, but I got them for $10 and can practice painting on them)
6. Black Orcs w/great weapons x10, plus full command
7. 2 Regiments of unopened Orc Boyz (should I do spears or choppas + shields?)
8. 2 Orc Boar Chariots
Plan to Purchase:
4 Spear Chukkas
Effigy of Gork (build)
I do have one question, as I do not have the Storm of Chaos book yet, can 'Ard Boys armies take "Dogs of War" units? If so I was thinking about adding some Maneaters.
Dont make spear boyz waste of points since you want your unit to charge not the other way around. Also people will scream cheese a lot.
If you build a man a fire he will be warm for a night. If you set a man on fire he will be warm the rest of his life.
I suggest you give shield, hand weapon to the orcs, makes htem cheap and combat effective on the charge, (+1S) and they can take charges too.
Simply cut the second weapon and put a shield in it's stead.
If you want to actually use the arrer boys, cut the bows off, and add the hand weapons you cut off earlier, and you got yourself some boyz!
The unbuilt boyz should be choppa shield.
You want losts of troops, and black orc are core, so you want at least 2 units of them, if you can't afford them make conversions.
The neast way I found to convert them is to use plastic card, cut it up in little squares to make scale armors as the heavy armor. You can use that to makes the gobs too.
I like that idea for converting Black Orcs, not my post, but thanks!
I don't really think you'd need 4 spear chukkas in a Ard Boy list, course it would help and they are cheap, but maybe a Rock Lobba would be nice.
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I think spear chukkas could add alot to a 'ard boyz list actually. You will have alot of trouble with large units of heavy cavalry or monsters. Also,dont write off spears completely. Orcs dont have great movement,so you cant count on charging. And they also arent meant to break opponents on the first round either. So spears could be helpful. Also,put the banner of butchery on a spear weilding big'uns unit and thats alot of attacks
I think that spears are a great weapon for orcs, because of their low initiative. Of course you want your units to charge, but you can never be sure they'll actually do this (they're greenskins after all ^_^ ) and if they get charged themsleves, spears will be very useful too.
A Big 'Un unit with spears and shields will have a lot of attacks at strength 4 and a save of 5+. I don't think it will get much better than that. Of course, this is an expensive weapon combo, and other weapons also have their uses, so don't give too many units spear and shield.Why would they do that??Also people will scream cheese a lot.
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Ard boyz can have dogs of war as there is an entry in the book for Rugluds armoured orcs (crossbow wielding orcs, genius) so they would also be allowed maneaters.Originally posted by jonsolo@Mar 2 2005, 10:41
I do have one question, as I do not have the Storm of Chaos book yet, can 'Ard Boys armies take "Dogs of War" units? If so I was thinking about adding some Maneaters.[snapback]342304[/snapback]
Also, why would anyone call cheese on giving orcs spears? Thats just crazy talk as spears are a pretty necessary bit of kit to an orcy block of foot troops.
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I agree what's wrong with Big'uns with spears? Also, don't forget, you are not obligated to take more than one unit of Blkorcs. They are expensive and most people find it hard on the wallet and not to mention for points as well. I originally had plans for 2 Blkorcs units of 15 each. Afetr the list was complete it looked lackign in troops. I eleminated one of the Blkorc units and made the other one 20 strong with Great Weapons, SB, musician and champion with a Night Banner. I think the night banner is a decent choice because everyone focuses missile fire on the Blk orcs.
Also, I have 3 units of 20 Big'uns each. 2 Have choppas and shields and the other one has spears, shields and a War Banner. Yes you can only attack with your frony rank on the charge, but that's not what they are for. They are there to deter your opponent from charging them. And if they do, they'll be sorry.
I gave my 5 Boar Boyz the Banner of Burchery. That's 15 str 5 attacks on the charge!!!